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How to mimic deep leaf litter?

duane stuermer

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Good tip about the magnolia leaves, my tree just dropped, so I'm soaking a 5 gal bucket full, to add to a wild type betta tank.
The water has turned quite dark after just a couple days.
 

duane stuermer

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Might be time to change the water on the magnolia leaves.
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duane stuermer

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Decided today after 2 weeks of soaking, was a good day to toss some magnolia leaves into the tank I've been preparing for wild bettas. Putting them on the dark side of the tank.
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Hi all.
They look really good, it will be interesting to see how long they remain intact for. Do you have problems with the leaf fragments ending up in the gravel? I tend to leave mine until I have a bit if a mulm layer and then have a very occasional syphon, but I use sand so the leaf fragments are always on top of the substrate.

cheers Darrel
 

duane stuermer

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For me, the maple leaves break down fairly quickly, especially with the cichlids chewing on them. It will be interesting to see how the magnolia leaves hold up.
 

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Night and day differrnce between white and red oak leaves.

I like the smaller leaf size of the white oak leaves I get but they only last a few weeks or so. The red oak leaves on the other hand are holding up in most of the tanks going on 3+ months now! And as a bonus the red oak leaves turn an incredible deep rich purple red and have a really attractive shape. The down side is there neatly hand size size.
 

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Hi all,
The red oak leaves on the other hand are holding up in most of the tanks going on 3+ months now! And as a bonus the red oak leaves turn an incredible deep rich purple red and have a really attractive shape
I like Quercus rubra and Q. coccinea leaves as well, they were planted a bit in the UK for Forestry, but they didn't do very well and they like acid soils, so there aren't many trees near us (it is all limestone here). I always go and get my Oak (Q. robur) and Beech (Fagus sylvatica) leaves from a wood on the acid "green sand" about 10 miles away, but I don't know if it really makes a difference.

cheers Darrel
 

duane stuermer

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At this point most of the magnolia leaves have skeletonized. whether this be to snails, or normal decomposition, not sure.
There has not been a large detritus buildup.
Below is when they were first dropped in.
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Now
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Heartnet

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In the hopes of creating as close to a leaf litter biotope as I could after watching this biotope video, I ordered indian almond leaves in bulk.

Here's how it looks so far. I'll be adding more leaves as the tannins fade from the WC's.

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The back wall is an entire sheet of 2" poret foam. The tank uses hamburg matten filtration.
 

Jonathan Aquair

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I had this very question a little while ago when buying some A. Bitaeniata from Ted Judy. So I went and bught ~250+ Indian almod leaves. Turned out pretty well [excluding pesky snails.....this is why we can't have nice things...]

Day one (waiting for leaves to fall)

couple weeks into it

Female w/fry emerging

After a few months w/o leaf replenishing
 

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