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Discussion in 'African Cichlid Identification' started by ste12000, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. ste12000

    ste12000 Member 5 Year Member

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    Pelvicachromis roloffi
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    It looks like a 2" TL fish, so I have to agree with Simon Morgan. The upper eye stripe definitely rules out Congochromis/Nanochromis. The body shape does not resemble any Pelvicachromis at that size. It is most likely Parananochromis as he has pointed the P. ornatus on p.173 in Lamboj's book.
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    tjudy Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    I read the post that shows the pic. Not P. ornatus, since Gabon is not being collected for commercial export AS FAR AS I KNOW. If I am wrong somebody please get me the name of the company in Gabon exporting!!!!

    Wild caught fish and well fed tank fish (even wild fish that have been in tanks for a while) look different. Considering the number of 'new' fish coming out of Guinea lately (funny.... ever two years a ton of new names appear from Guinea only to disappear off the lists pretty quickly), my money is still on Pel. roloffi, especially if they are coming from Guinea. That is the only type 2 krib from Guinea. The color and body shape are very consistent with P. roloffi.
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    It just doesnt look like a Pel. roloffi. The red marking on the gill is too low for roloffi and it matches up with the P. ornatus in p173 of Lamboj. The additional eye stripe also is 1 too many for roloffi. If it were a roloffi, then it would be closer to a roloffi male. It also is missing the red highlight on top of the eye which all roloffi (male or female) exhibit.

    Here is a picture of P. roloffi "Samba".
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    tjudy Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    I'll agree that there appears to be an extra stripe in front of the eye of the fish in the picture above, but that could be an artifact of the photograph. But you are starting to convince me it is not P. roloffi. The image-shack file name says nanochromis, and the yellow face is not something associated with Para. ornatus. I think its a congochromis. Compare it to this pic (Anton's) published here: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/nano_sabinae_pt1.php
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    I see on the BCA forum that the fish is collected in Gabon. OK.. Parananochromis, most likely P. ornatus. I would really like to know who is exporting from Gabon now!
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    Dont we all, maybe they can start sending all the Parananochromis species across the pond.

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