White gold?

[JesseH530]

Picked these two up out of pretty unfavorable conditions, as A. "Gold", I believe this points to A. cacatuoides "white gold", any opinions?

 

[Mike Wise]

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." Wm. Shakespear (in Romeo and Juliet, Act II, ii, 1-2). There are very very few commercial names for domestic strains that are 'set'. They are what the breeder/seller wants to name them. If you want to call them A. cacatuoides "White Gold" or just "Gold", it's all up to you (and the buyer of any offspring).

 

[JesseH530]

I was more concerned with the species they are and if they were really an A. cacatuoides variant and not a female of another species? Which leads me to my next question, are they both females? Too small to tell? Both under an inch.

 

[DwarfApisto]

Too small

 

[aquaticclarity]

Side view pictures of the fish would help a lot! They kind of look like cacatuoides but they also look a little like agassizii-the angle makes it tough to tell. Also, the fish on the right looks like it has some black in the ventral/pectoral fins on the leading edge, but again it's tough to tell in the picture. If it does have that black it's most likely a female. The other fish doesn't seem to have that black in the same fins so it might be a male. But better pictures are needed all around!

 

[wethumbs]

They kind of look like the 'Fire Red' agassizii rejects.

 

[JesseH530]

They could be 'rejects', the one on the left has a deformed dorsal fin that isn't fully developed along the back. I picked up an agassizii male 'red' also, so I wouldn't mind if they were agassizii females. The black color in the fins is not really present any more, stress colors I think.

 

[wethumbs]

The one on the right has deformed pelvic fin. I would advise against breeding deformed fish.

 

[JesseH530]

I don't think the one on the right does? How do you tell from the pic

 

[Cooder]

Neither do i from the pic... only you can tell us, unless you post better pics.

 

[wethumbs]

The one on the right has a 'kink' on the pelvic fin. Looking closer to the one on the left, it seems like uneven pelvic fins too (1 longer than the other).

 

[Mike Wise]

In truth, I didn't look at the photos. The files are too large for me and if they don't start loading after 15-20 seconds, I don't waste time waiting for them to load. Sorry. Now, if you downsize them so that they load in a reasonable time for me I'll look at them.

 

[aquaticclarity]

Almost looks like a cacatuoides on the left and an agassizii on the right!

 

[JesseH530]

Sorry about the picture size, I uploaded from my phone an don't know if I can resize it. As far as the pelvic fins, they were kept with some tanganikans and I think their fins were just shredded in the pic. It's from when I first put them in, I'll try to get some pics tonight when I get home, I wish they weren't so camera shy, and in a planted tank.

 

[JesseH530]

Can't find the normal looking one, here's the deformed one and the agassizii

 

[aquaticclarity]

The darker fish is a male Apisto. agassizii. The lighter fish MIGHT be Apisto. cacatuoides but it looks more like a gold ram!

 

[Cooder]

They are very poor quality fish, if you are happy with them, and they do breed (if they are compatible) cull the fry. and dont sell these.