Please help ID my new apistos. I’ve never seen anything like them before

[Ethan]

I have an old breeder friend who retired from the business and gave me all his breeding stock. These guys threw me off a bit. I could easily recognize everyone except these and he has no idea what the species is either

 

[Mike Wise]

They really don't show many diagnostic dark markings. Based on the dark lateral spot, all I can say is that they belong in the trifasciata-lineage. This lineage contains several hundred different apisto species/forms. Does the male have extended anterior dorsal spines?

 

[Ethan]

They really don't show many diagnostic dark markings. Based on the dark lateral spot, all I can say is that they belong in the trifasciata-lineage. This lineage contains several hundred different apisto species/forms. Does the male have extended anterior dorsal spines?

No, it’s not extended like trifasciata males I’ve seen

 

[Mike Wise]

I still don't see anything really diagnostic. Kind of reminds me of an atahualpa-, nijsseni-, or norberti-group species. All of these are part of the trifasciata-lineage along with the species of the agassizii-, bitaeniata, brevis-, cacatuoides-, D-10, diplotaenia-, gibbiceps-, and (of course) the trifasciata-groups.