One more Peru order for the season and Updated Stock List

[aquaticclarity]

Apisto. "cruzi" Peru (pending a proper I.D. from Mike Wise!!!) You can see how these ae not the same fish as the sp. Melgar I also brought in.

 

[jv_xbishop]

agassizii

what is the difference in coloration between the agassiziis from peru and brazil? pictures? i'm interested. thanks.

 

[aquaticclarity]

I'll try to get some pictures of the agassizii up today. The Peru agassizii look like some of the earier groups I have brought in with a mix of colors incluiding some nice red finned with white seam males. Check some of the pictures in earlier threads for those guys.

 

[aquaticclarity]

"agassizii" Brazil (although after looking at the pictures I'm leaning toward cf. gephyra)

 

[Mike Wise]

Jeff, your "agassizii" Brazil are a population of A. cf. agassizii Netz/Net from some tributary north of the Amazon and below Manaus. A. cf. agassizii Alenqer is the most commonly available example of the Netz form.

 

[aquaticclarity]

Great! Thanks Mike.

What seperates/distinguishes A232 (cf. gephyra Rio Curua) from cf. agassizii Net? I can NEVER seem to tell an agasizii/cf. agassizii from the gephyra/cf. gephyra!

 

[jaafaman]

...The Dicrossus were all DOA...

That's a real shame. The batch you sent me is turning out quite well, and a few more would've been a welcome addition.

Apologies for the size, but it's a point-n-shoot CoolPix and I don't have my regular computer, so I haven't cropped or resized yet to preserve what color the camera did catch...

(EDIT - perhaps one day I'll be able to properly post a photo from Live and not have it disappear from the post mere hours later)
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.asp...E41C021B73932!1029&parid=6EAE41C021B73932!995

 

[aquaticclarity]

The other Brazilian Apistos are made up of mainly another agassizii type (pictures soon hopefully), a few pertense complex fish, a single hippolytae, a single weird tetra, a single juvinal Acarichthys heckellii (I think that's what it is), and a single Taeniacara candidi (maybe two). I think the candidi is a male which would be perfect because I have a nice female left form a group that died out a few months ago.

 

[Mike Wise]

Great! Thanks Mike.

What seperates/distinguishes A232 (cf. gephyra Rio Curua) from cf. agassizii Net? I can NEVER seem to tell an agasizii/cf. agassizii from the gephyra/cf. gephyra!

Well, A. cf. gephyra (both A232 & A233) represent the paratype form of Kullander's 1980 type series for A. gephyra. Both of these species show no scales on the ventral edge of the body (similar to that seen in A. pertensis). The other agassizii-complex species show ventral scales. This is not easy to see no live specimens, but you can separate A. cf. agassizii Netz, like A235, from A cf. gephyra by looking at the scales on the flanks. On Netz the outer edges of the scales are thickly lined in black, forming a 'pinecone' appearance. On A. cf. gephyra, the same scales are thinly lined and the bottom of each scale shows little or no color at all, forming a diagonal streak on the abdomen similar to that seen on resticulosa-complex species. Additionally, the unpaired fins of male Netz forms become extremely long and pointed on mature males. On A. cf. gephyra, the unpaired fins remain shorter and more blunt. The body is much stouter on Netz forms while on A. cf. gephyra the body tends to be more slender. In finnage and body shape, A. cf. gephyra more closely resembles the populations of A. cf. agassizii Broad Black Caudal Seam (BBCS) that inhabit the same part of the Amazon.

 

[aquaticclarity]

Bad picks of nice fish...these are the red tetras that came in: