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Apisto Gephyra or Agassizii + sexing

Stijn1191

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Hi all, I've gotten 3 Apistogramma Gephyra last week from a renowned Dutch shop (Utaka) who are 90% of the time correct with hard to ID species and I think they got them from Glaser. Anyway, I get them and let them settle in to be better able to determine the sex (and species). These were caught in Santa Isabel (middle Negro).

I think I got in luck and got one male and 2 females. One of the females has made her territorium in a dark corner of the tank so she is very hard to photograph. When the fishes meet they only flare a bit to eachother, no real aggression. All of them are still quite small, body length about 3cm, with caudal fin about 4cm. Anyway, can you guys conform the species and sexing? Sorry for the bad quality photos I'll try to make more tomorrow of better quality.

Male, the photos make him seem more silvery than he actually is, when I look at him he has more clear yellow with blue fluorescent mainly in his lower body, but it could also be that the tannins in the water are deceiving my eyes. I think he is a male because he has way more colour in his caudal fin and more blue fluorescence in his body + a more defined red in his dorsal fins compared to the 2 others.

On this photo you see the colours as I see them.
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Here you can clearly see the white ring in the tail
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Here an example where everything looks less yellow and you can see some of the fluorescence.
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Here again more to the yellow side.
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Bit far away, but flaring, check the red line in the dorsal fins):
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Females: they only show yellow in the body with only a little bit of the fluorescence, compared to the male. Sometimes the black stripe changes to a single black spot.
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2 presumably females flaring to eachother:
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I know these photos don't make it easy. Once again: I'll try to make better photos tomorrow.
 

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Mike Wise

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Based on the red dorsal fin margin, white submarginal seam on the caudal fin and the more zigzag borders on the male's lateral band behind the lateral spot, then yes I would say that this is A. gephyra. Sexing is easy because female have very little to no pattern in the caudal fin.
 

Stijn1191

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Thanks for the quick reply. Perfect! The females hardly have any pattern in the caudal fin. So it seems I was correct and in luck for taking one male and two females home. I love them so far, nice behaviour and pretty :)
 

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You know that at 3 cm it is possible that these are still showing a juvenile pattern that is much like a mature female. Only time (and spawning) will tell.
 

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It is conversations like this one that makes me wish i still showed juvenile patterns.
 

Jacobus

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Saw them in the shop last week. Very pretty fish. Regretted to leave the shop without some of them. But when one has no space left.... what can you do?
 

Stijn1191

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Haha, and they colour up so nicely out of the shop. The colouration in shops don't do them justice at all!

The male is showing a bit more aggression towards the females since today (chasing them for 10 cm's).
The temp is only 24 degrees now though, because I like to keep a bit of winter/summer cycle going on to not burn out the fish. My guess is when the temp goes up they will get in the mood.
 

Stijn1191

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Since I don't have an aquarium/photo thread (yet), here are some more photos :)

Fyi: it's supposed to be a middle Rio negro biotope, but I took some liberty with the plants ;-)
Such a looker! On the background one of his inmates (Crenicara punctulatum), don't worry the checkerboards are still small and will be rehomed to a bigger aquarium in due time.
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Fluorescent blue
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Some more inmates (Pyrrhulina cf. brevis). First photo a female and then some males + flaring to eachother. I got about 6 babies of them of around 2cm swimming around.
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Hemigrammus coeruleus, from time to time they colour up bright red:
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