Apisto and Beta?

[hb101.19]

Hi all! So I am getting a new aquarium 65 litre with an external filter and I was planning on getting an apistogramma! I already have the species picked out and I thought of going for the Apistogramma Viejita. My local fish shop had 1 male in a tank by itself and he looks stunning. I was planning on using the tank for nano fish or small species but I thought on changing it and maybe having 1 male in the tank and that it would be less aggressive than a pair and that he would be the main fish. (I have had apistogrammas before and he is already by himself since all the females sold) I was thinking of putting some Puesdomugil Red Neons in with the apisto. But then same local shop got some candy female bettas in. I do already have bettas in my other aquarium but my other tank is all settled so I wouldn't want to risk it. So really the question is could I put them both in the tank? I got a nice big piece of wood and I am currently soaking it due to the tannings and I will be putting live plants in. Is this a good idea? Or if not could I put gobies or killifish in?
** Edit **
I haven't brought anything yet or set the aquarium up!

 

[MacZ]

Is this a good idea?

No. Domestic betta (yes including the females) are best kept solo.

Apistogramma Viejita

Those are very likely mislabeled, as a very common domestic breed of A. macmasteri is sold as that, while the actual A. viejita is not very common in the trade.

Or if not could I put gobies or killifish in?

Gobies: No. They live also in the lower regions of a tank, just as Apistogramma and depending on the species of gobi the requirements in temperature and especially current might diverge massively from those of the cichlids.
Killifish: Also depends on the species. Some are surface dwellers, which wouldn't be a problem, some have a similar lifestyle to the cichlids as well, which you don't want to mix.

You might want to look at dwarfcichlid.com and seriouslyfish.com to get some reliable info.

 

[hb101.19]

No. Domestic betta (yes including the females) are best kept solo.


Those are very likely mislabeled, as a very common domestic breed of A. macmasteri is sold as that, while the actual A. viejita is not very common in the trade.


Gobies: No. They live also in the lower regions of a tank, just as Apistogramma and depending on the species of gobi the requirements in temperature and especially current might diverge massively from those of the cichlids.
Killifish: Also depends on the species. Some are surface dwellers, which wouldn't be a problem, some have a similar lifestyle to the cichlids as well, which you don't want to mix.

You might want to look at dwarfcichlid.com and seriouslyfish.com to get some reliable info.

I will leave of the idea of bettas then, wouldn't want to chance it. Do you think killifish like Aphyosemion Australe or Clown Killifish would be alright? I haven't gone into too much research yet but I did ready that Clown killifish are normally top dwellers. Even if not I'll have a look on them websites now! Thanks for the heads up!

 

[MacZ]

Aphyosemion Australe

Not good, very similar life style and territorial.

Clown Killifish

That's Epiplatys annulatus, right? If you structure the tank right and offer the killifish a lot of floating plants... maybe. Please be aware that cichlids will try to eat any fish that probably fit their mouths.

 

[hb101.19]

Not good, very similar life style and territorial.


That's Epiplatys annulatus, right? If you structure the tank right and offer the killifish a lot of floating plants... maybe. Please be aware that cichlids will try to eat any fish that probably fit their mouths.

Okay thanks! Bit gutted but I will look into other ideas and I will hold off for now, thanks again.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I got a nice big piece of wood and I am currently soaking it due to the tannings and I will be putting live plants in. Is this a good idea?

I'd let the plants grow in for six weeks while you think about it.

Have a look at <"https://www.ukaps.org/forum/threads/help-needed-with-0-nitrates-levels.68393/#post-679359">.

I'm not sure any Apistogramma and Betta is a good mix, and I wouldn't do it.

or Clown Killifish would be alright?

<"They are">, but they really need soft water and live food.

cheers Darrel

 

[MacZ]

<"They are">, but they really need soft water and live food.

Sorry to correct you there, Darrell, but they don't require live food. Always good, but not a must. But I agree on the water.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

Sorry to correct you there, Darrell, but they don't require live food. Always good, but not a must. But I agree on the water.

Mine mainly got live food, so they were a bit spoilt.

Cheers Darrel