Any opinion on keeping red tail eunotus or sp Winkelfleck

[anewbie]

I have a mostly empty 29 - it has a few pangio in it and 2 red tail otto; thinking of getting a. eunotus or a. sp winkelfleck since those are what seems to be availalbe in wc. I thought about getting Ivanacara adoketa but they might kill the pangio.

Any comments a. eunotus or a. sp winkelfleck ?

 

[MacZ]

Winkelfleck. just because.

 

[Apistoguy52]

Second the winkelfleck, sneaky good looking fish

 

[anewbie]

Ok i went with the sp. winkelfleck. This is a picture of the male; the one of the female is lower quality. He has marking around the face but is facing the wrong way. The aquarium i put them in is a 29 with ec 55 and a few left over pangio of different species:

 

[anewbie]

marginally better images - 2 of the male one of the female:

 

[rasmusW]

Looking forward to see them color up.

-r

 

[anewbie]

Finally a 1/2 decent picture of the male:

 

[anewbie]

Short video of the female since she won't sit still; she is behaving a little breeding-ish in that she keeps dashing into the coconut shell (top hole) and the male no longer picks on her.

 

[rasmusW]

Looks like the color is there too.

-r

 

[anewbie]

Looks like the color is there too.

-r

Yea; i can't really figure her out - i don't think she has eggs but she darts into her coconut shell so often who knows. She really is a nice looking fish in person - lets just see how long i can keep them alive. The ec is around 45-55 for that aquarium; i can't measure ph reliably anymore so given up trying to guess - it could be anywhere between 6 and 8. I have no clue what temp they should be kept at so i keep them around 76.

 

[anewbie]

Well female B has itsy bitsy fry; female A had bred at least 4 times without having anything hatch but B (which is about 30% smaller finally bred; totally caught by surprise didn't even know she laid eggs - so not sure how old they are or what they have been eating. I tossed in some encapsulate shrimp eggs when i saw them and will try to hatch some bbs but not sure. Took some pictures but they sucked as the back of the aquarium needs a good cleaning - she is very protective of them.

 

[anewbie]

a very poor picture of mom with the frys; it appears to be a big spawn:

A few tidbits; this aquarium (29) has kuhli loaches as permanent resident; it also has 10 tiny sterbai temporarily (wasn't expecting a spawn since the eggs kept not hatching and these sterbai came in too small for their target aquarium - about 1/2 inch - the sterbai are terrified of the winkelfleck (why i don't know they are very gentle) so they have all collected far away from the spawn site; the male has been keeping the other female away from the spawning female. Anyway I'm super excited while I'm sure experts can spawn winkie day and night - I was really disappointed when the other female eggs would never hatch and had given up.
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On an unrelated side note my wolli had a spawn even though the male is only 1 inch 3 weeks ago; i didnt' feed them fry food since i could never see their location (mom is very very shy); however somehow the frys have made it and are growing - not a lot but at least 4 maybe more - so i tossed in some encapsulated brine shrimp eggs and she brought them out and they stuffed their little tummy with eggs. But the winkelfleck are the ones that really excite me. I mean i still don't know how many wolli i have in the tank because they never let me look at them; how can you be excited about something you can't see. Anyway i type too much guess i'm getting old and stupid in the head.

 

[anewbie]

I should mention the wolli tank is much more satisfying to the purist - it is a 29 (lots of water) with basically 9 fishes - 6 Nannostomus marilynae (should add a few more - i really like these); and 3 or 4 1 inch wolli. To be precise I see 1 wolli every day who greets me (a 1 inch male); i see 1 female once a week if i'm lucky; i saw hint of a second fish likely female due to yellowish complextion shadowing the female with frys one day but only seen it once in 3 weeks and i haven't seen the fourth in 4 weeks - i know that 3 of them dug little pits along a piece of driftwood that is approx 24 inches long and when i saw one of them that wan't the male and female it was sticking its nose out but then retreated when it noticed me. Hum.... maybe i should setup a baby monitor to see who is in that aquarium. I don't know. Oh well this is so far off topic but at least i think i'll finish my thought - I have geo that like to splash me in the face when i feed them; krobia that want to be petted (i try to avoid that since i think it might damage the slime coating); and wolli who want nothing to do with me. On the bright side only the flag cichild actually bite my fingers.