A. sp. D50 - another larvophilous mouthbrooder from Colombia

[Shane Puthuparambil]

That looks like a pebas/ortegai/papagayo class apistogramma.... but I am not an expert. @Frank_H @Mike Wise should know.

 

[rr16]

They came from Ray Blackburn who I think got them from Tom. Are yours wild? These are F1.

 

[Frank Hättich]

They came from Ray Blackburn who I think got them from Tom..

Yes, Ray and I got our D10 from Tom about one year ago.

 

[Shane Puthuparambil]

Saw a video of Ray Blackburns fishroom....very impressive.

Is he on any forums?

They must be D10 then.

 

[Frank Hättich]

They are for sure D10 Shane. Ray is on Facebook.

 

[Shane Puthuparambil]

They are for sure D10 Shane. Ray is on Facebook.

Yes. Do they get as large barlowi/megastoma?

 

[Frank Hättich]

The largest male I have heard of so far is supposed to be 9cm.

 

[rr16]

The mouth is not a patch on barlowi.

 

[rr16]

Here are a few pics of the male D10

 

[chris1805]

Here are a few pics of the male D10

Your D10 look really cool! After the weekend i will be receiving a pair of Apistogramma sp. D10 myself from Roland

 

[rr16]

Your D10 look really cool! After the weekend i will be receiving a pair of Apistogramma sp. D10 myself from Roland

Thanks, they're beautiful little fish.

 

[chris1805]

Thanks, they're beautiful little fish.

From what i've heard they won't stay small

 

[rr16]

Ok, so, here goes! My D10 have not got red eyes. Ray says they don't have red eyes. Tom says they do. Frank, what are yours like?

 

[rr16]

I've just looked at yours on facebook Frank and they have red eyes! Oh bugger!

 

[Frank Hättich]

The amount of red coloration around the pupil is in fact variable among different specimens. Here are some of the fish I have kept:

I have seen older photos of Ray’s fish with quite pronounced red eye-rings. If they in fact show them no longer, maybe the red color can diminish over time?

 

[rr16]

Hmm, interesting. Thanks. Ray's answer to "Do D10 have red eyes?" was "They have black eyes - they are only red if you poke them in the eye!" I'll have a chat with him at the next club meeting. So, am I right in saying that if a female shows any blue on the cheeks or any slight patterning in the caudal, she is male?

 

[Frank Hättich]

"They have black eyes - they are only red if you poke them in the eye!"

"So, am I right in saying that if a female shows any blue on the cheeks or any slight patterning in the caudal, she is male?"

Afaik all supposed females that merely showed a slight patterning in the caudal, eventually turned out to be males.

 

[rr16]

Bugger! That's what I get for buying a pair off a scouser! Ha ha.

 

[chris1805]

When looking at the photos of my D10 male i am not spotting any red in the eye as well. When i am home today i will try to look at it in more detail for both the male and female.

 

[Colossus]

Fishes are in good hands!
I love your pictures Frank!

Erik.