10g Breeding Project?

[katerae]

Are there any Apistogramma species that could potentially work well for a breeding project in a 10g tank? I have spare tanks to relocate the male while the female has fry if necessary. Thoughts?

 

[anewbie]

a. pucallpaensis work well and they are not bad fishes; the ones i had did fine in tap water which was gh 6 kh 3 tds 140 for myself. the only odd thing is the frys would not grow to full size until put in a larger container but they did mature and did not appear to be runts. a. borelli can work but sometimes it doesn't work. The other fishes in the genus are larger and deserve more space as well as violence can be an issue in such a small tnak.

 

[Ben Rhau]

10g is a pretty normal size for temporary breeding, but not if you plan to leave the pair in there. If you want to house a breeding pair longer term, you should choose something smaller like anewbie suggested.

 

[MacZ]

something smaller like anewbie suggested.

Bigger. Tank I mean.

 

[katerae]

Bigger. Tank I mean.

I have an empty 15 gallon I was just trying to get away with not having to rearrange everything to set it up. Any suggestions for a tank of that size? I already have a 20 gallon long I plan to dedicate to Agassizii and have kept Macmasteri in the past. Also, I’m having a hard time deciding between Double Red, Alenquer, or Tefe Blue Pearl for my 20 gallon. Any suggestions there?

 

[Ben Rhau]

Bigger. Tank I mean.

I mean if you want to leave them in, choose a smaller fish.

 

[Ben Rhau]

I have an empty 15 gallon I was just trying to get away with not having to rearrange everything to set it up. Any suggestions for a tank of that size? I already have a 20 gallon long I plan to dedicate to Agassizii and have kept Macmasteri in the past. Also, I’m having a hard time deciding between Double Red, Alenquer, or Tefe Blue Pearl for my 20 gallon. Any suggestions there?

15 is also pretty small for leaving in the pair. Maybe for borellii it might work, but both macs and agassizii (and most other apisto species) benefit from more space. 20 long should be fine for a pair of any of the varieties you listed.

Can't really make a suggestion, since it just depends on what you like/want.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I have an empty 15 gallon I was just trying to get away with not having to rearrange everything to set it up. Any suggestions for a tank of that size?

It would really depend on how much structure you have in the tank. I have really densely planted tanks, with lots of wood and structural leaf litter, and that means that your fish have a little bit more wriggle room with regards to aggression, as "lines of sight" are very short. I've kept Apistogramma agassizii pairs in this size of tank, but with that proviso.

Cheers Darrel

 

[Ben Rhau]

It also depends on the specimens you have. If one is particularly aggressive, it might not work.

 

[anewbie]

I have an empty 15 gallon I was just trying to get away with not having to rearrange everything to set it up. Any suggestions for a tank of that size? I already have a 20 gallon long I plan to dedicate to Agassizii and have kept Macmasteri in the past. Also, I’m having a hard time deciding between Double Red, Alenquer, or Tefe Blue Pearl for my 20 gallon. Any suggestions there?

The typical min suggested for breeding+full time home is 20 long and this can work for not too active species for long period of times. I'm finding now that i am older and well can spend more that 65s work even better (48x16) or 95 (48x24); height of course over 8 or 12 inches does not matter too much though some species are more willing ot use full height than others - so 16 or 18 inch height is not always wasted but this depends on the species.

For a 20 long there are a large number of options. For a 15 you could try a pair forming fish like nijjensi which seem to pair fairly easily and have not so much violence. The only real negative is that these are lovely fishes and really deserve a larger area to spread their fins. Pair forming species that are picker about partner are of course more likely to cause violence between male and female if the female rejects the male but sometimes they just take to ignoring each other with little to no violence. I've been told panduro are pickier about partner but haven't owned always favoring nijjensi for some reason i could never quite understand.

This of course is not a recommendation of using a 15 but if you want to push it there is that option; of course borelli are quite common and would be a good candidate for a 15.

 

[Mike Wise]

The only true species of Apistogrmma (Apistogrammoides pucapalpaensis technically is another genus) that would work for someone with little to no experience with apistos are the truly dwarf species like A. wapisana and A. angayuara. Neither are available at the moment to my knowledge.

 

[Hellfishguy]

Not an Apistogramma, but I’ve been successfully keeping and breeding Nannacara anomala in a 10 gallon for many years.

 

[Mike Wise]

I've reproduced many species in 10 gallon tanks in the past. I also lost many fish to aggression. Back in the 1980s, when you could buy most apistos for around $2.00, it was not a major financial loss. I've learned from my experience. Now, well, "you pay your money and take your chances".

 

[Ben Bergman]

Not an Apistogramma, but I’ve been successfully keeping and breeding Nannacara anomala in a 10 gallon for many years.

How many do you keep at a time in the tank?

 

[anewbie]

How many do you keep at a time in the tank?

Unless you are very very experienced this is a fish that belongs in a 40b; though some would argue a 20 long is more than enough. The males can be a bit larger than your average apistogramma male and the female a bit more aggressive when she has frys though individual fishes have different behavior.

 

[Mike Wise]

How many do you keep at a time in the tank?

It really depends on the bottom dimensions of the tank and the apisto species. Some (a few) species can be relatively safely kept in a 24x12"/60x30cm tank as a trio or breeding pair. Other, more aggressive species, need a much larger tank to be safe.