Need new Apisto ID

[Dread]

These apisto were sold under a pretty broad name of A. Galaxis, so I'm looking to narrow it down. I suspect it's Apistogramma sp. 'Papagei' (A91) but I'd like more input on it, from people more 'in the know' than I am. Any ideas? I know these aren't top-notch shots, and I'll do my best to get better ones soon. It was sold as a Male/Female pair:

Thanks!

 

[Mike Wise]

Sorry, but the photos are not good enough for a good identification. Photos of the posterior part of the male and female would be especially helpful.

 

[Dread]

Hopefully these are better, I apologize since I don't have a good camera for aquatic pictures.

Someone suggested A. sp. 'Pebas' and I think that could be close?

 

[Mike Wise]

Might be Pebas, but it could also be Papagei. Can you possibly photograph only the tail of the fish. Do you have photos of the female?

 

[Dread]

Well I'm positive that they're the same species, and I'm positive I've got a male/female pair (I vented them, and I know what to look for because of numerous other cichlids), I'm just unsure of the species. Here's the best tail shot I could get.

 

[lab]

I think what Mike is looking for is any small spots in the tail. Pebas usually have this, but Papagei not. The photo is too much out of focus to tell, I'm afraid.
Although you are sure of the sex, the female may also be useful for ID, since there are differences between the number of lateral spots shown on the female.

Lars

 

[Mike Wise]

After looking at the last photo, the caudal spot show a form similar to that of A. sp. Papagei. Most specimens of A. sp. Galaxis end up being a color morph of A. sp. Papagei.

I only reason that I asked for a photo of the female is because every photo that you have sent shows fish with blue color in the dorsal fin. I have never seen this on a female of A. sp. Papagei or Pebas. .

 

[Dread]

Well, after much research and help from some people here, this Apisto has been positily ID'd as A. sp 'Pebas'. After speaking with the owner of the shop it was bought at, and seeing adults from the same parents, there is no doubt that it is sp 'Pebas', and by the looks of the adults, these guys will be definate lookers when they get larger! :biggrin: Thank you guys for your help, it's much appreciated.

 

[Dread]

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