Is this a male Apistogramma cacatoides?

[Dach]

What kind of Apistogramma is this?

I bought a pair of Apistogramma cacatoides and even breed for me last week. The male, however, doesn't look anything like the ones I see on the internet.

Here are a couple of pictures of the male.

Here is a picture of the female that looks just like pictures I see on the internet.

She is more colorful than the male which is strange. I thought the male was not yet mature and had yet to color up, but with the recent spawning I was obviously wrong. Is this male a different species or do some males of this species have bland colors?

 

[Rod]

That is not a pair of caucs

Maybe A melgar or ????
perhaps part of the Pebas-complex???

Certainly not a cauc

 

[aquaticclarity]

They look very much like the sp. pebas "dolly" that I have.

Definately not cacatouides or cacatouides complex fish.

 

[Dach]

Thanks for the responses. I hate it when local stores have their fish incorrectly labeled .

This is the first time I've kept apistos. Can you direct me to a site where I can look at different kinds of apistos? Thanks!

 

[hapaluku]

Hello.
A nice site to look at apistos is:
Welkom to Martin and Toms homepage, it has very nice pictures.

 

[Dach]

They look very much like the sp. pebas "dolly" that I have.

Thanks! I think you are right. They look very much like the sp. pebas. The male is not blue as in some of the pictures, but it's close.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

 

[Dach]

The male looks a lot like Apistogramma eunotus "Orange Tail" too.

Apistogramma eunotus "Orange Tail"

What do I look for to distinguish between eunotus "Orange Tail" and sp. pebas?

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,
First the normal disclaimer that I am incredibly poor at I.D's and for that reason don't usually answer these. I'm not familiar with pebas complex fish, and they also have a dark zone around each scale, but A. eunotus was my first thought for the male. This is based on the scale pattern, the plain ground colour and lack of other obvious markings.

cheers Darrel

 

[Mike Wise]

I'll put in my 2¢. First, the photos aren't good enough (for me, anyway) to accurately ID the species. Now the fish don't belong to the Pebas subcomplex. First the male shows moderate serration of the tips on hard part of the dorsal fin. Pebas-subcomplex male show more even dorsal fin contours. Second the female shows a distinct caudal spot that is separate for the last vertical bar (Bar 7). Bar 7 is connected to the caudal spot on Pebas-subcomplex species, forming a larger caudal patch.

It might help if you can provide better photos that show the black markings better. Also look at the 'sticky' at the start of the page and try to answer as many as possible.

 

[Dach]

Thanks for the input. Mike, I'll work on getting better pics.

 

[Dach]

Sorry it took so long. Here are a bunch of more pictures of the male with stress markings. I hope these with the previuos ones will help with the ID.

Thanks again for your help.

 

[animalmgc]

ok would it be safe to say its from the Regani complex

 

[Ruki]

For me he looks like A. eunotus.

 

[Mike Wise]

I agree with Lukasz. It is a form of A. cf. eunotus. I can see a split in Bar 6 in the top 2 photos. The grayish green operculum is typical for these forms.

 

[Dach]

Thank you all very much!