id please

[scott]

is this A. caetei? i have my doubts but that is what it is being sold as. i bet you can guess what i think it looks like!
http://img2.uploadimages.net/963181fwcichlids1113721309.jpg

 

[Randall]

Uh oh, Scott,

It's...it's...it's that hybrid! Arghhh!

Pretty fish though.

Good luck!

All the best,

Randall Kohn

 

[scott]

it's being sold on aquabid as a. caetei "proven pair"!!!!

 

[oldschool]

well I am the guy who has the fish in question. Please advise as to their ID. They were sold to me as wild south American Imports. Is this not A caetei. I would apreaciate a more detailed explanation so I can know for myself for future refrence. In the meantime I have pulled that auction.

 

[oldschool]

it's being sold on aquabid as a. caetei "proven pair"!!!!

Ummm I never said proven pair, I said a pair. And I did submit the picture of the female in question. I tried to submit the picture however I have not figured out how to. Perhaps you could post the picture of the female I sent you scott.

 

[scott]

here is the pic of the female that was e-mailed to me.
http://img2.uploadimages.net/921416MVC001S.jpg

sorry, i guess it was guaranteed pair not proven pair my mistake. i am just interested in seeing a female steelblue because i know that there are some out there i just have never seen one.

 

[oldschool]

how do I post a pic?
I sent you two pictures I thought. that is the worst of the two. the other picture is much clearer. In either case I would just like to know what to look for as I am still unsure as to the ID.

 

[oldschool]

Hi all here is a better pic of the female of the male in question

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I have researched this and I still think its A caetei. I also do not profess to be an expert in taxonomy. I am a breeder thats what I love to do. So some help would be apreacieted.

 

[Mike Wise]

I hate to say it, but I don't see any female features like black front ventral fin rays. It could easily be a subdominant male. Based only on the pictures supplied, it's hard to say if it is male or female.

 

[Mike Wise]

Sorry, I forgot to answer your question: "what is it?" The photos are too poor for a positive identification, but it is a good guess that it is a hybrid form that's been around for several years. This fish is sold as A. sp. Blue-head / Blaukopf / Steel Blue / New Blue. Look for links under this name.

 

[oldschool]

Thank you Mike and better pics

Mike I do trust your opinion so here are two better pictures I think this should be clear. This will settle the matter for me. Thank you. I may have been fooled I guess
The male

The female


I would value your opinion as i may have bought a bunch of hybrids.

 

[Mike Wise]

David,

I wish I could be more optimistic, but the new photos sure look like a dominant & subdominant male of A. sp. Blue-head/Blaukopf/Steel-blue to me. I've been wrong many times in the past. Let's hope I'm wrong this time.

 

[oldschool]

Nah your probably right. It just stinks to find out you have a hybrid. I will see if they breed. Thanks for taking the time to let me know.


Dave

 

[ap.cacatuoides]

Hmm, on my computer does'nt any of the pictures/links works
Is it just me?