Fry safe apisto tankmates

[PissBabyTheFourth]

what south american tank mates won’t eat apisto fry? I know pencilfish are safe but was wondering if there are any others that could go in a 20 long

 

[Aquaticloch]

Small species of tetra like ruby, or ember tetra are less likely to predate on fry, as well as copella species.

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Would green neon tetras work?

 

[Ben Rhau]

If you search the site, there a lot of threads on fry-safe dithers. It’s probably a no on most tetras (I don’t know about green neon) but others have had luck with black neons in addition to what Aquaticloch said.

 

[MacZ]

Hatchetfish are safe, but then again because of other factors only work out in a biotope/display tank, not in a breeding tank.
@OP are you going for a breeding tank or a display tank?

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Hatchetfish are safe, but then again because of other factors only work out in a biotope/display tank, not in a breeding tank.
@OP are you going for a breeding tank or a display tank?

I’m gonna do a display tank but would also like for them to breed, if that’s not really possible I’ll just do a display

 

[MacZ]

I’m gonna do a display tank but would also like for them to breed, if that’s not really possible I’ll just do a display

Then my best advise is: Go for a display tank, do not get a pair but a single male and toss the idea of breeding. That opens up many more possibilities for other species to add. It's either breeding or display. Hardly happening in the same tank successfully.

Usually a breeding pair in a fully stocked display ends up with a widower as that setting is very (read: fatally) stressful for a female long term.

 

[Memeboi]

I’m gonna do a display tank but would also like for them to breed, if that’s not really possible I’ll just do a display

I dont have any experience with breeding apistos but I would say that a good idea is Breeding and then making it into a display tank once you're done with breeding and raising fry.

 

[Memeboi]

Hatchetfish are safe, but then again because of other factors only work out in a biotope/display tank, not in a breeding tank.
@OP are you going for a breeding tank or a display tank?

Are there any species of hatchet fish that are tolerant of hard water, asking since breeding dithers would be nice for my 29 and philly water is practically Just liquid brick

 

[MacZ]

Are there any species of hatchet fish that are tolerant of hard water, asking since breeding dithers would be nice for my 29 and philly water is practically Just liquid brick

Not that I know of.

 

[Mike Wise]

Hatchets are difficult to breed even in softwater and probably impossible in hardwater without a miracle. They can adapt to hardwater, but not breed.

 

[Memeboi]

Hatchets are difficult to breed even in softwater and probably impossible in hardwater without a miracle. They can adapt to hardwater, but not breed.

So they can live in hard water?!
Is there a limit for their adaptability? Philly water is about 8 dGH, and I did phrase that incorrectly, they are dithers FOR the breeding tank, not planning on breeding hatchets., Wanting to breed A.Borellii

 

[Mike Wise]

If properly acclimated, most blackwater species can survive (not thrive) in hard alkaline water. I knew someone who kept Discus and Cardinal Tetras in water with a pH ~8 and 14°dGH.