fasciatus,frempongi

[k98]

hi everybody!
i receive 5 of this fish they are supposed to b 5 frempongi but its defenetivly not the fact i think i only have 1 frempongi.the frempongi and the fasciatus have not shown any sign of aggression but only 2 min after the released the fasciatus start up a big big fight whit another male http://media.putfile.com/Picture-2943

here is some pict of my fish i pay 20$can for each if someone are interested pm before i return them all



frempongi(right side)and fasciatus feel the perfect love


big boy fasciatus


need indentification for this 2 girls



ty a lot and feel free to add any comments

 

[tjudy]

Unfortunately it is difficult to tell the difference between the two species. About the only difference is the amount of red when spawning. The frempongi is supposed to have more red extending further from the belly, but I suspect that individual differences may blur this distinction between the species. Are the frempongi wild collected? If so, the importer should be able to tell you if they are frempongi or not based upon country of origin (frempongi are only found in Lake Bosumtwe in Ghana, while fasciatus come from a very wide range). If they are F1, see if the breeder will tell you where they got the wild adults from, and work back to the importer if possible.

 

[k98]

yep they are all wild. my fasciatus came from volta and for sure like you say my frempongi are from Bosumbtwi.i can easely see the diference for each male but its another thing for the female.if someone want better pict i can try plz just ask

 

[k98]

no 1 here know the best way to make the difference between fasciatus frempongi and elongatus?somebody thold me the frempongi dont have any black dot between the stars,but i think this is not the truth

 

[tjudy]

Elongatus is the different one... the notable difference is the presence of red lines alternatnig between irridescent scales along the length of the body. As far as frempongi vs. fasciatus goes, the only difference I know of is the amount of red (greater in frempongi). That is the only difference Anton Lamboj mentions as well.

 

[k98]

ty a lot for your time

 

[Randall]

Hemichromis fasciatus & H. frempogni

Hello k98,

I don't think Hemichromis fasciatus and H. frempogni are difficult to distinguish. H. fasciatus is the only species of the group that exhibits a series of small dark spots between the larger dark blotches on the body. Also, when happy, H. frempogni exhibits a yellowish base coloration. Looking at your video (well done!), the two sparring males appear to be H. fasciatus.

Good luck!

Randall Kohn

 

[k98]

yeah for sure they are fasciatus in the video. but for a unhappy fish its realy hard to see the difference,and for the black spray between the big dot i tend to say the same thing of tjudy,take a look at this link you will see why i say this

http://www.dcg-online.de/noFrames/files/diaHemichromisFrempongi.html

http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/picture.php?p=802. all my fish came from the guys in the last link.out of my 5 fishs i think i have only one frempongi but im not sure because 2 of them still uncolored:frown: if someone have a good and safe place for REAL frempongi plz pm


ty a lot mr randall

 

[k98]

for your personel concern here's the mail i received from mr lamboj



The Hemichromis are a little bit difficult to identify, as the picture
does not show all details very clear. But I cannot see color patterns
(black markings on the anterior parts of the body) as typical for
fasciatus, also not for elongatus. As frempongi can vary a little bit in
coloration and body shape, and as color patterns as to see on your
pictures fit well with all I know about frempongi, I think it is H.
frempongi. Additionally in Ghana (and if Oliver sent all this together, I
think they are all from Ghana)only fasciatus and frempongi are occuring.
So - if not fasciatus, then it must be frempongi.

Hope it helps a bit