couple ap. pertensis?

[fernandoperini]

Hello
Please, is apistogramma pertensis? couple?

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7781/postarpertensis3gy8.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7079/postarpertensis2nd9.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/711/postarpertensis1md9.jpg

thanks

 

[Mike Wise]

I cannot be positive from the photos, but I think the male is A. cf. pertensis. I cannot ID the other fish. It might be a female of the same species.

 

[fernandoperini]

but the format of the body of the supposed female no this seeming to be a male?

 

[Mike Wise]

I cannot identify the "female" by using the photos. It might be the same species as the male. It might be a different species.

 

[fernandoperini]

understood
thanks

 

[fernandoperini]

I want to go at the store, and How can I try to really discover it is a female? Or please give some differences,
thanks

 

[Mike Wise]

Females will have a lower dorsal fin, shorter ventral fins, & a paler pattern on the caudal fin. It should have the same head & mouth shape as the male, but the body is usually shorter and deeper. It should have very little or no blue color stripes around the eye or on the head in general.

 

[fernandoperini]

In another store arriveda lot of discards , I look and I found these that think to be ap. pertensis, right? Have some female?

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/705/netuno002be5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2605/netuno004vu5.jpg

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/3029/netuno008gg4.jpg

This is different

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7324/netunoidvt3.jpg

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8902/netuno014nt4.jpg

 

[Mike Wise]

The first 3 photos show A. cf. pertensis. Those with a round tip on the rear part of the dorsal fin are females (males have a pointed dorsal tip). Photo 4 shows an agassizii-group species, but the photo is too poor for identification. Photo 5 is a mixture of A. cf. pertensis + an agassizii-group species.

 

[fernandoperini]

agassizi is seeming to be a female here,
I was thinking to be AP. Pulchra.
does not have a AP pertensis male?

 

[Mike Wise]

I cannot identify the agassizii-group fish. It might be A. pulchra, which is a member of the agassizii-group. Your photos show several male A. cf. pertensis.

 

[fernandoperini]

is there any chance that they are ap. meinkeni ?
latter i will take pictures of them in the aqua to try to see if they if i get at least one couple
thanks for the help

 

[Mike Wise]

No. A. meinkeni is a very small species with low dorsal fin & heavy body. In the 1980s A. cf. pertensis was thought to be A. meinkeni. It was pictured as A. meinkeni in several books. Later it was called A. cf. meinkeni, but it is more closely related to A. pertensis. So it is more accurate to call it A. cf. pertensis.

 

[fernandoperini]

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/104/netunopostar5zl7.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6822/netunopostar2bz9.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1143/netunoportar3gf1.jpg

 

[fernandoperini]

it has male, only femeas or it has couples?

thanks

 

[Mike Wise]

There are both males & females.

 

[fernandoperini]

that good notice
thanks