Books Covering Dwarf Crenicichla

[dhm325]

I would appreciate any recommendations for books covering dwarf crenicichla. Thanks.

 

[pikette]

There isn't much dedicated to the species.

Romer's Atlas has some info. There are quite a few papers out there you could hunt down and peruse.

One of the Cichlid Yearbooks have an article by the late Frank Warzel on Cr. regani. There are a few articles in Cichlid News, The Buntbarsch Bulletin of the ACA and a few papers scattered around.

On the net, pretty much everything is from Vinny Cutty's site; 'Mostly Cichlids'.

If anyone knows of any other information, please chime in.

Francine

 

[Mike Wise]

Undoubtedly the best book - with the most dwarf pike species discussed (16 species in the walacii-group alone!) - is Stawikowski & Werner's "Die Buntbarsche Amerikas Band 3: Erdfresser, Hecht- und Kammbunbarsche". It also discusses a number of other dwarf cichlid species: Crenicara (2), Dicrossus (5), Biotoecus (3), Mazarunia (2), & the Red Patwa.

 

[dhm325]

Thanks Francine and Mike. I have the Mergus Cichlid Atlas and I have read Vinny Kutty's articles. Is the Stawikowski & Werner book available in English? I can't read German.

 

[Mike Wise]

Sorry, it's published only in German.

 

[blueblue]

Sorry, it's published only in German.

So, Mike, will you translate them?

 

[pikette]

Undoubtedly the best book - with the most dwarf pike species discussed (16 species in the walacii-group alone!) - is Stawikowski & Werner's "Die Buntbarsche Amerikas Band 3: Erdfresser, Hecht- und Kammbunbarsche". It also discusses a number of other dwarf cichlid species: Crenicara (2), Dicrossus (5), Biotoecus (3), Mazarunia (2), & the Red Patwa.

Mike,
I'd like to buy that book and pay you for the translation of just the pike info. How about it?

Francine

 

[Mike Wise]

Rainer Stawikowski wants me to translate this book, too - 476 pages! The Crenicichla section alone is 160 pages long. Ulmer (the publisher of the book) now sells the book for about €25,00. This is half of its original price. On the other hand, the dollar is dropping against the Euro quite rapidly & printing a translation will cost almost 50% more than volume 2 (Apisto & Co.). All of this means that it would cost about $75 for me to provide the book & a printed translation. I don't think I could sell enough at this price to make the time & effort worthwhile, but I'll think about it.

 

[Refael Hdr.]

Rainer Stawikowski wants me to translate this book, too - 476 pages! The Crenicichla section alone is 160 pages long. Ulmer (the publisher of the book) now sells the book for about €25,00. This is half of its original price. On the other hand, the dollar is dropping against the Euro quite rapidly & printing a translation will cost almost 50% more than volume 2 (Apisto & Co.). All of this means that it would cost about $75 for me to provide the book & a printed translation. I don't think I could sell enough at this price to make the time & effort worthwhile, but I'll think about it.

If you eventually decide to do it (which I hope you do :wink:...), please count me in. A 75$ for this kind of set is indisputably an adequate price! ...

 

[dhm325]

Likewise. If you need an advance contribution to cover your costs and time spent, please let me know.

 

[Mike Wise]

I see a troubling trend here. First volume 2 (apistos & rams), then vol.3 (most of the rest of the South American cichlids). What next? Vol. 1 with all of the Central Americans & South American cichlasomine (including Laetacara & Nannacara) & heroine cichlids??

Speaking of translations, I just received another shipment of Koslowski's book, so I can sell it with the English translation &/or the DATZ book if anyone is interested.

 

[Refael Hdr.]

I see a troubling trend here. First volume 2 (apistos & rams), then vol.3 (most of the rest of the South American cichlids). What next? Vol. 1 with all of the Central Americans & South American cichlasomine (including Laetacara & Nannacara) & heroine cichlids??

Speaking of translations, I just received another shipment of Koslowski's book, so I can sell it with the English translation &/or the DATZ book if anyone is interested.

Well Mike, your last one has leave a taste for more, what can I say :wink: ...

 

[pikette]

I see a troubling trend here. First volume 2 (apistos & rams), then vol.3 (most of the rest of the South American cichlids). What next? Vol. 1 with all of the Central Americans & South American cichlasomine (including Laetacara & Nannacara) & heroine cichlids??

Speaking of translations, I just received another shipment of Koslowski's book, so I can sell it with the English translation &/or the DATZ book if anyone is interested.

Okay,
How much for Rainer Stawikowski's, Koslowski's and the DATZ?

Francine

 

[Refael Hdr.]

Hi Francine,
Check this thread: http://forum.apistogramma.com/showthread.php?t=4873

 

[Mike Wise]

How much for Rainer Stawikowski's, Koslowski's and the DATZ?

I don't have copies of Stawikowski & Werner's Volume 3 (or Volume 1 for that matter). So far I am only selling copies of Volume 2 (Koslowski) + English translation, and the DATZ book. I'm selling all 3 for $80 + postage for now. Once they are gone, the cost will probably rise due to the increased value of the € over the $. I haven't purchased either of the other volumes because I don't have translations for them. If anyone is interested in buying these, I can help them through to ordering process.

 

[pikette]

Hi Francine,
Check this thread: http://forum.apistogramma.com/showthread.php?t=4873

Thanks for the link Refael!

 

[retro_gk]

Steve Simpson books has all 3 volumes of Die BuntBarsche Amerikas available together for ~$66+shipping.

http://www.stevensimpsonbooks.com/?...13&CLSN_1065=1167786666106541c9dadfd4aadc2c66

 

[Mike Wise]

Steve Simpson books has all 3 volumes of Die BuntBarsche Amerikas available together for ~$66+shipping.

http://www.stevensimpsonbooks.com/?...13&CLSN_1065=1167786666106541c9dadfd4aadc2c66

If it's $66.00, & not £66.00, it's a fair price. Ulmer is now selling the 3 volume set for €50,00 or $65.80 + shipping. No translations for them, however.

 

[retro_gk]

It's £39.99, approx $66.