Are they what they say they are?

[mematrix]

Hi All I found thease 2 offered on aqabid they look practically the same. Wondering if they are what they are said to be

No 1: Viejita II
www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwapisto&1156113738


No 2: red sholder mcmasterii
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwapisto&1156114113

Sincerely Curtis

 

[fishgeek]

same picture used and i believe mike has said before that vijieta and macmasteri are pretty synonomous nowdays

basically i think viejieta in hobby has become a cross

andrew
i'm sure someone will correct me if i have misunderstood

 

[Zapisto]

difficult to know if it is not a mix
but i will say same fish they try sell under two name.

 

[Mike Wise]

Let's just say that the seller is selling the fish with the names that he bought them. They are domestic fish that are probably crosses, but mostly A. macmasteri. Neiter is A. viejita nor A. viejita Color Form II as pictured in Linke & Staeck. Wild CF II is actually a very colorful morph of a separate species, A. sp. Black-throat/Schwarzkehl, and is often called A. sp. Red-flecked/Rotflecken. They fish offered on Aquabid are pretty fish, as is the Velvet Red Swordtail/Helleri, but like this fish is a domestically color enhanced hybrid.