Another Apistogramma ID ??

[cawa1031]

Another Apistogramma ID ?? (yesterday comes a good news!!)

update pictures (2005 05/04)
see #12

male:

female:

It looks like Apistogramma piauiensis....
Also like Apistogramma caetei....



Cawa

 

[blueblue]

From its red face and the face pattern,
I reckon that it's an Apistogramma caetei ^.^

male:

female:

It looks like Apistogramma piauiensis....
Also like Apistogramma caetei....



Cawa

 

[Mike Wise]

It is neither A. caetei nor A. piauiensis. I cannot say for sure what species it is. Extra information would really help. Do you know what country it is from (possibly the lower Amazon of Brazil?). Any other information can be helpful. Can you send a better photo of the female that shows her tail?

Based on what is see right now, my guess is that it belong to the Xingu-complex of the regani-group. It is very similar to A. sp. Xingu, but I have never seen a male Xingu with so much red on the face. Are these wild fish?

 

[cawa1031]

It is neither A. caetei nor A. piauiensis. I cannot say for sure what species it is. Extra information would really help. Do you know what country it is from (possibly the lower Amazon of Brazil?). Any other information can be helpful. Can you send a better photo of the female that shows her tail?

Based on what is see right now, my guess is that it belong to the Xingu-complex of the regani-group. It is very similar to A. sp. Xingu, but I have never seen a male Xingu with so much red on the face. Are these wild fish?

Dear Mike:
At first , I greatly appreciate your reply !

Here are the pictures of female:

The ID of these fish has discussed in 2~3 forums in Taiwan
but still have no conclusion...
The owner of the fish is one of my friends
now I just know he got the fish last year when they are still very small...
I will soon contact the owner and ask him for more information...

I also found a page in Japan:
Apistogramma sp "Paje_xingu" from Xingu Altamira
http://www.rva.ne.jp/apisto/paje_xingu.html
it's a male Xingu with much red on the face...

Also thanks blueblue~
I really like your passion for apistos
and I hope you can come to our forum more often...
http://www.aquabook.idv.tw/cgi-bin/forums.cgi?forum=7


Cawa

 

[Mike Wise]

Thanks for the photos of the female. The females show that they belong to the regani-complex of the regani-group. I am fairly certain that the species pictured is a population of A. geisleri, possibly one from around Obidos, Brazil. This population has a lot of red on the face, like your males'.

 

[blueblue]

Thanks Cawa for your kind words. Will try to stop by the forum and share with you experts from taiwan. Cheers ^.^

 

[Joost S]

My pictures are not as beautiful as yours, but could we have te same fish?
Other topic, same thread
My male lacks the red face, but the rest of the fish looks the same (to me).

 

[Mike Wise]

My pictures are not as beautiful as yours, but could we have te same fish?

No, your fish as a narrower, more zigzag lateral band edge, narrower vertical bars, and a differently shaped caudal spot. Your fish also does not have the prominent stripes on the caudal fin.

 

[Joost S]

Thanks Mike,

I really have to start looking in a different way. I ordered the Römer. Maybe that can help me.....

 

[cawa1031]

It's another picture of the male:

 

[Joost S]

Beautiful!

 

[cawa1031]

update pictures (2005 05/04)

so cute !