I decided to start a new thread since i want to track these a bit closer and the thread title 'what species...." is convoluted.
I purchased 5 a. wolli - 2 m and 3 f and received around July 12 2024. One I believe had a locked jaw and died a week later - the other 4 i did not see for a month+. Eventually things broke down with 1m and 2 f (the 4th i am unsure if it is hiding or died). The larger female took the right side and stays in front of the drift wood and greets me every day; the smaller female broods constantly and is likely sitting on her 4th set of eggs in as many months. The known male i see only once a month or so and never very long - the few times i've seen him if a female sees him he lies flat on the substrate in a submissive mode (never seen this with any of my apisto previously) - i've seen him do this with both females. I 'talked' to @miguelgr7 who purchased the same fish from the same vendor around the same time. He said his male was very shy at first but eventually came out so i'm hopeful mine will come out. The females have split the tank into well defined areas with the brooding female staying behind the drift wood and mostly on the right near the sponge filter and the other female on the other side. I think the brooding female would have driven the other female out of the tank if she had been able to as i saw them lock lip once and i believe she lost the contest being smaller - some pictures:
Aquarium on sept 18 2024:
Females conflict Oct 13 2024:
Over time the frys have migrated to the larger females area where she 'accepts' them - that is she does not chase or eat them (I always wondered who prints the little do not eat me signs).
@miguelgr7 has a nice picture of his male so hopefully he will post it. In the same package I received a number of a. Ladisalo of some unknown form. These fishes are very different as they hang out together in one larger group (i have 6 or 7 in a 40B with at least 2 males and 4 females); while they are much larger than the a. wolli at this point they have not to my knowledge bred. I have a 2nd pair of a. ladisalo in a 29 and likewise the m/f hang out together in the open but have not (yet?) bred. Perhaps they will never breed or need some trigger. Or maybe they are not a blackwater fish?
Anyway i'll post some updates to this thread in-stead of the other thread to try to track if they change behavior or whatever over time. Long term i'm not sure when i'll have to remove the frys though i suppose when they get older they will no longer be welcomed but i'm not sure how far out in the future that will be.
I purchased 5 a. wolli - 2 m and 3 f and received around July 12 2024. One I believe had a locked jaw and died a week later - the other 4 i did not see for a month+. Eventually things broke down with 1m and 2 f (the 4th i am unsure if it is hiding or died). The larger female took the right side and stays in front of the drift wood and greets me every day; the smaller female broods constantly and is likely sitting on her 4th set of eggs in as many months. The known male i see only once a month or so and never very long - the few times i've seen him if a female sees him he lies flat on the substrate in a submissive mode (never seen this with any of my apisto previously) - i've seen him do this with both females. I 'talked' to @miguelgr7 who purchased the same fish from the same vendor around the same time. He said his male was very shy at first but eventually came out so i'm hopeful mine will come out. The females have split the tank into well defined areas with the brooding female staying behind the drift wood and mostly on the right near the sponge filter and the other female on the other side. I think the brooding female would have driven the other female out of the tank if she had been able to as i saw them lock lip once and i believe she lost the contest being smaller - some pictures:
Aquarium on sept 18 2024:
Females conflict Oct 13 2024:
Over time the frys have migrated to the larger females area where she 'accepts' them - that is she does not chase or eat them (I always wondered who prints the little do not eat me signs).
@miguelgr7 has a nice picture of his male so hopefully he will post it. In the same package I received a number of a. Ladisalo of some unknown form. These fishes are very different as they hang out together in one larger group (i have 6 or 7 in a 40B with at least 2 males and 4 females); while they are much larger than the a. wolli at this point they have not to my knowledge bred. I have a 2nd pair of a. ladisalo in a 29 and likewise the m/f hang out together in the open but have not (yet?) bred. Perhaps they will never breed or need some trigger. Or maybe they are not a blackwater fish?
Anyway i'll post some updates to this thread in-stead of the other thread to try to track if they change behavior or whatever over time. Long term i'm not sure when i'll have to remove the frys though i suppose when they get older they will no longer be welcomed but i'm not sure how far out in the future that will be.
