WC Apistogramma sp. Ladislao

[miguelgr7]

This couple has already given me 2 generations and they are on their third, they are like rabbits

 

[JoseF]

These are beautiful fish. Hopefully these begin to become available in the community. I haven't been a find a source... except you

 

[miguelgr7]

These are beautiful fish. Hopefully these begin to become available in the community. I haven't been a find a source... except you

I hope they are available soon, I gave many of them to a seller

 

[phb]

My male

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A bit different...

 

[miguelgr7]

My male

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A bit different...

Here https://www.tomc.no/page.aspx?PageID=60
It is mentioned that there are 2 different colorations, I think yours is "2"

 

[anewbie]

Here https://www.tomc.no/page.aspx?PageID=60
It is mentioned that there are 2 different colorations, I think yours is "2"

My 'conversation' with @Frank Hättich indicates they are up to 4 species being called Ladisalo; being clueless I am going to speculate they are 4 different species not 4 colour forms of the same species. This is the blue form I got from Alex; i believe @miguelgr7 also purchased the ones Alex was selling but perhaps i am mistaken; to my eye the fishes just don't look the same - perhaps it is the anal fin on my fish seems a bit longer in ratio the fish body; also the black marking on the top don't go as far along the body with the red fish above having 7 or 8 stripes mine only has 4 stripes (the black tick marks just below the dorsal fin). Something just looks different. I will say compared to some of the other fish i have this little fellow adopted quite quickly; i still haven't gotten a good look at two of the a. wolli who continue to hide after a month.

 

[Ayazad]

Hi! I'm trying to breed Ladislao, but it's not working yet. Could you tell me what water parameters are needed for successful spawning? THANKS.

 

[anewbie]

One of my female laid eggs but they were clearly not fertilize; and as far as i could tell the male did not attempt to fertilize them. None of the other females have laid eggs as far as i can tell. I have 3 females with one male in a 40b and 1 male with 1 female in a 29. No clue why they refuse to breed.

 

[Ayazad]

pH6-6.3
t=26C
60ppm

 

[JoseF]

Wish I could find a female of the same species. I have two males that I obtained from

https://tristanstropicalfish.com/product/apistogramma-ladislao-pair/

 

[miguelgr7]

One of my female laid eggs but they were clearly not fertilize; and as far as i could tell the male did not attempt to fertilize them. None of the other females have laid eggs as far as i can tell. I have 3 females with one male in a 40b and 1 male with 1 female in a 29. No clue why they refuse to breed.

Now that's happening to the pair I have; it's been over 8 months since I've seen any fry from them. The female spawns, but in the end, nothing comes of it. I'll keep waiting.

 

[Mike Wise]

It would help to know your water parameters. The species is found in moderate black water so minimal water hardness and a pH around 6 should work. This is a nijsseni-group species and most have a reputation for being choosy about breeding partners.

 

[miguelgr7]

It would help to know your water parameters. The species is found in moderate black water so minimal water hardness and a pH around 6 should work. This is a nijsseni-group species and most have a reputation for being choosy about breeding partners.

I have them at 5.4 pH and 75 TDS; previously, there were two spawnings with those parameters, both with positive results.

 

[anewbie]

It would help to know your water parameters. The species is found in moderate black water so minimal water hardness and a pH around 6 should work. This is a nijsseni-group species and most have a reputation for being choosy about breeding partners.

My EC is below 40; ph i presume is below 6. My wc nijsseni spawn in an aquarium with harder water without any encouragement in less than a month of ownership (they were extremely young with the male under 1.25 inch and his tail colours still forming). the female looked younger but harder to tell.

My a. ladisalo have been in their respective aquariums for over 18 months. The females in the 40 have 'territory' and if a female crosses territory she will sometime get flared at but virtually no violence. In the 29 the male is so reclusive i'm lucky to see him once every 2 or 3 months so i think he is still alive but who knows. He is the larger of the two males i have and really quite a specimen 'cept that he almost never shows himself.

 

[JoseF]

My EC is below 40; ph i presume is below 6. My wc nijsseni spawn in an aquarium with harder water without any encouragement in less than a month of ownership (they were extremely young with the male under 1.25 inch and his tail colours still forming). the female looked younger but harder to tell.

My a. ladisalo have been in their respective aquariums for over 18 months. The females in the 40 have 'territory' and if a female crosses territory she will sometime get flared at but virtually no violence. In the 29 the male is so reclusive i'm lucky to see him once every 2 or 3 months so i think he is still alive but who knows. He is the larger of the two males i have and really quite a specimen 'cept that he almost never shows himself.

Funny I acquired another male because my first one is reclusive as well. I thought he might be sick but he looks perfectly healthy and quite colorful when he does occasionally show himself. The new one is much more outgoing so far.

 

[anewbie]

Funny I acquired another male because my first one is reclusive as well. I thought he might be sick but he looks perfectly healthy and quite colorful when he does occasionally show himself. The new one is much more outgoing so far.

Yea my other one is not that reclusive and i see him every day.

 

[Mike Wise]

I guess I should have been more specific. I was asking Ayazad about his water values. As for those with favorable values but no success, it could be for many reason from tank placement and decor to just not having a compatible breeding pair.

 

[anewbie]

I guess I should have been more specific. I was asking Ayazad about his water values. As for those with favorable values but no success, it could be for many reason from tank placement and decor to just not having a compatible breeding pair.

The funny thing is when i watch them like this morning. The female clears an area and I believe wants to breed but the male seem to lack interest and ignore her. I always though the male would accommodate a willing female ?

 

[Ayazad]

It would help to know your water parameters. The species is found in moderate black water so minimal water hardness and a pH around 6 should work. This is a nijsseni-group species and most have a reputation for being choosy about breeding partners.

pH6.3-6.5,
60-70ppm
not blackwater
I will work on the water parameters, thanks.

 

[MacZ]

Try working on the EC, this usually has more impact than pH.