Red hongsloi

[Jeremy Anderson]

I seem to have an affinity for hongsloi, I don't know why, I just like them. I see a few for sale, but not many. The ones I have seen so far are showing bright pink and yellow colors, but I prefer the ones with brick red, ones that lean closer to wild-type, I have seen. I would love to find a source for red hongsloi. I really like the macmasteri complex altogether, again, no reason I am conscious of.

 

[Henry_Tan]

If you are keen on a full red one. Try look for Apistogramma hongsloi form III. Take note this is more likely to be a captive bred variant.

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[Jeremy Anderson]

I like the wild-type amount of red, oh heck, I don't know what I like. Now I'm looking for honest-to-goodness A. viejita, which may be a fool's errand. There are a lot of nice new Apistos on the Wet Spot pricelist, particularly for anyone near the west coast of the US.

 

[Henry_Tan]

I like the wild-type amount of red, oh heck, I don't know what I like. Now I'm looking for honest-to-goodness A. viejita, which may be a fool's errand. There are a lot of nice new Apistos on the Wet Spot pricelist, particularly for anyone near the west coast of the US.

There are not much real viejita being sold. Usually you get will be macmasteri. Unless you can be certain it is the real viejita.

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[JosVermeulen]

If you are keen on a full red one. Try look for Apistogramma hongsloi form III. Take note this is more likely to be a captive bred variant.

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I think you mean color form II?

 

[JosVermeulen]

I like the wild-type amount of red, oh heck, I don't know what I like. Now I'm looking for honest-to-goodness A. viejita, which may be a fool's errand. There are a lot of nice new Apistos on the Wet Spot pricelist, particularly for anyone near the west coast of the US.

If you're looking at the A. viejita from Wet Spot, that's "Trade viejita", so basically just a commercial form of A. macmasteri.

 

[Jeremy Anderson]

If you're looking at the A. viejita from Wet Spot, that's "Trade viejita", so basically just a commercial form of A. macmasteri.

I get that, I meant trying to find some actual viejita. I like those redneck macmasteri too, but, shoot, I like them all. Thank you for keeping me straight on it, nonetheless.

I ended up starting with 4 captive bred agassizi "fire red" - I will probably only do wild form Apistos in the future, but I wanted to start with something relatively easy.

The Wet Spot pricelist has alpahuayo, atahualpa, baenschi, and ortegai right now - that's what I meant; Chasing some real viejita down might be a wasted effort, when I could just order some awesome stuff right off the list.

 

[Mike Wise]

I personally don't know anyone in North America who has the true A. viejita. Several European hobbyists have it.

 

[Jeremy Anderson]

That's how I understand it as well. I saw some for sale on "awkward bid" a week or two ago, I don't remember now if they were international or not. Likely to be macmasteri if not, I know. Thanks for your replies, everyone.

 

[Jeremy Anderson]

ApistoDave on Aquabid has A. viejita and hongsloi for sale. His site seems like it is associated with Dr. Römer, I am not hip to the scene yet, but oh my, @apistodave exists here too. He seems legitimate, so are those real viejita? (debates on the value of the concept of 'species' notwithstanding, haha)

 

[Mike Wise]

He's legitimate. Whether or not his 'viejita' are the true viejita I can't say. In the past he only had the hobby 'viejita' (strain of A. macmasteri). I suggest you PM him and ask.

 

[Jeremy Anderson]

He's legitimate. Whether or not his 'viejita' are the true viejita I can't say. In the past he only had the hobby 'viejita' (strain of A. macmasteri). I suggest you PM him and ask.

Did so, just after posting that. Thanks again, Mr. Wise.