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Red Forest jewel ID

Discussion in 'African Cichlid Identification' started by killiguy, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. killiguy

    killiguy Member

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    Ive always been abit confused about all the different types of jewel cichlids.This one has been bred consisently by a breeder for 10-12 years and is sold as H.lifalilli but according to the Sydnet cichlid group "at least six species, namely, H. guttatus (bimaculatus), H. lifalilli, H. cristatus, H. guttatus, H. x. 'Neon', and H. elongatus were available in Australia".This particular fish is bright red non breeding and at a very small size and because of its long history at one breeders in less likely to be a hybrid than all the other rubbish around.None are allowable imports so its important we keep them pure
    What is the consensus??
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    tjudy Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    H. lifilli has never truly imported into the hobby, and the fish that have been misidentified are most likely guttatus. A fish from the lower Congo River basin started coming out about 8 years ago called H. sp. 'Moanda'. Anton Lamboj (currently working on the revision of the genus) is now using H. cf. lifilli 'Moanda' for that fish, and will identify it as H. lifilli when he publishes.

    You fish looks like H. guttatus to me, because the other species (the wild varieties that is) show a lateral line spot when red. H. guttatus usually does not dipsplay a spot.
  3. killiguy

    killiguy Member

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    Thanks Ted
    Is there a reliable photo library of the Hemichromis forms,it seems even more confusing than taeniatus forms which I have to study up from time to time or I forget whats whats.

    Is this link at all accurate,its quite old now but has quite extensive info
    www.sydneycichlid.com/jewel-cichlids.htm
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    tjudy Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Unfortunately, there is not a definitive photo preference for jewels. I have a big collections of jewel photos that I spent a couple years accumulating: then I sat down with Anton Lamboj and he opened file after file saying 'guttatus, guttatus, guttatus, guttatus...."

    The only statements in the article I question are that H. lifilili is common in the hobby (it is not... H. guttatus have been exported as lifilili) and that Anomalochromis thomas is 'widespread' in West Africa (it is only found in the north west areas). THe other species that has not been exported very often (if ever in any great numbers) is H. bimaculatus. It is another that is confused with guttatus or paynei.
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    Randall Active Member 5 Year Member

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    Hi Killiguy,

    I wouldn't rely too much on the sydneycichlid.com article above. Much of the information contained within is just blatantly wrong.

    All the best,

    Randall Kohn
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    Thanks Randall,III ignore it

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