Quiz... the last part

[Rolo]

Hi everybody.

Now, here is the third and last part of my little Identify-Quiz.
Again it's more difficult than the last, but I hope, that some more people have the heart to take part than last time.

Try to identify as much as you can, it doesn't matter, if you have no idea or if you make mistakes... that's normal ;-)

And as usual: Don't read the answers of the others before answering. ;-)

Have fun!

greetings,
Rolo

 

[Apistt_ed]

ok.. here's my try. john

1. A. macmasteri
2. A. geisleri (?)
3. (?)
4. A. cf. tefe`
5. A. uaupesi "red-wedge"
6. female A. sp urias (harlequin)?
7. A. cf pulchra "xingu"
8. A. diplotaenia
9. A. sp morado/ algodon II
10. A. rupununi (?)
11. A. maciliensis
12. female A. regani (?)
13. A. cf galaxis (?)
14. N. anomala
15. A. gephyra (?) - or is it A. agassizii (?)- guess is most likely aggie because of the distinct white lines of the caudal tail and not like that of gephyra.

 

[zmirek]

Hi,

Let's try once again:
1 - macmasteri
3 - hoignei?
5 - uaupesi "red wedge"
6 - female baenschi
7 - pulchra "Rio Branco"?
8 - diplotaenia
11 - maciliensis

Greetings

 

[Mike Wise]

There is NO A. maciliensis. It is only a population (subspecies) of A. trifasciata. I don't care what Römer, Mayland & Bork, etc. wrote. It is long out of date. I repeat, there is NO A. maciliensis. The pictured fish is the undescribed species A. sp. Mamoré.

 

[Rolo]

Hi,

No more guesses?


John:
pretty good!!!
about the half is correct ...but most of the rest is near by the truth ;-)

But...

9. A. sp morado/ algodon II
...
13. A. cf galaxis (?)

There's something mixed up...
Morado and Algodon II are NOT the same species... and both are not common names.
Morado is a name for A. sp. Pebas or a local form of it.
Algodon II is A. sp. Putumayo.
Also named Algodon (I) is the Papagei-Apistogramma (Papagallo), similar to the Pebas-Apistogramma. ...and another name for that is Galaxias.

Forget all these Algodon names, it's too confusing, because different species were called by that name.

15. A. gephyra (?) - or is it A. agassizii (?)- guess is most likely aggie because of the distinct white lines of the caudal tail and not like that of gephyra.

...interesting objection. I got these pictures as A. gephyra. I have to check it out. Let's see, what Mike think about it.

greetings,
Rolo

Ok, Mike... your guess?

 

[Mike Wise]

OK here are my guesses:

1. A. macmasteri Rotrücken/Red-shouldered Mac
2. A. sp. Wangenflecken/Cheek-spots
3. I do not know. I will need more photos of this fish
4. A. sp. aff. agassizii Tefé
5. A. uaupesi Rotkeil/Red-wedge
6. A. sp. Harlekin/Harlequin/Urias female
7. A. pulchra
8. A. diplotaenia
9. A. sp. Pebas (Morado/Purple)
10. A. hippolytae
11. A. sp. Mamoré
12. Female of regani-group species, possibly A. geisleri?
13. A. sp. Putumayo
14. ?A. taeniata slender form? I do not know for sure.
15. A. cf. agassizii Netz/Net, possibly from around Alenquer


The best way to separate A. gephyra from A. agassizii is to look for scale on the chest of A. agassizii; no or few scales on A. gephyra. This works best on dead fish under a microscope. For live fish, A. gephyra always has a read seam on the dorsal fin and, when threatening, displays a continuous lateral band. A. agassizii when displaying show a lateral band that extends from the gill cover to the lateral spot, then fades away, & reappears on the caudal peduncle & root of the tail fin.

 

[Tom C]

Mike;
Would you please explain to an apprentice why fish 3 is not A (cf.) eunotus ?
I see an orange spot at the base of the pectoral fin, no distinct abdominal stripes, unpatterned rounded caudal fin, an eunotus-like lateral band, dorsal fin and caudal spot, and to me it looks like a split bar 6.

Greetings

Tom

 

[Rolo]

Would you please explain to an apprentice why fish 3 is not A (cf.) eunotus ?

He couldn't! ...he identified this fish already as A. cf. eunotus Orangeschwanz/Orange-tail in the first quiz ;-)
... just in another mood. (there you have another picture of this fish, Mike! *g*)
There you can see, how different fishes can be on photos.

Ok, here is the solution:

1. A. macmasteri
2. A. sp. Wangenfleck, semi-adult
3. A. cf. eunotus Orangeschwanz/Orange-tail

4. A. cf. agassizii "Tefé"
5. A. sp. Putzer/Cleaner *hehe* ... no uaupesi! ;-)
6. A. sp. Harlekin / Harlequin, fem

7. A. pulchra, semi-adult (same fish as first quiz)
8. A. cf. diplotaenia "Atabapo", fem.
9. A. sp. Papagei / Papagallo

10. A. hipploytae
11. A. sp. Mamoré ("A. maciliensis")
12. A. sp. Prainha, fem. (sim. A. sp. Gelbwangen / Yellow-cheek)

13. A. sp. Putumayo / Algodon II (same fish as second quiz.. another mood)
14. Nannacara aureocephalus *sorry - couldn't resist* ;-)
(Respect John! Even if you said N. anomala. ...W. Staeck fall for tha joke actually, and he knows Nannacaras pretty good.)
15. A. gephyra (maybe? or not?!... have to be checked. I'm not sure.)

greetings,
Rolo

 

[Apistt_ed]

Ahh... this quiz has been most entertaining! Any more to come in the near future?!

 

[Rolo]

Ahh... this quiz has been most entertaining! Any more to come in the near future?!

Maybe?! ;-)

greetings,
Rolo