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canon8838

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if i have oak leaves in my 10g apisto tank, how long before i should remove the leaves and replace them with new ones?

do leaves hurt the quality of the water at all?
 

cootwarm

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I leave my leaves until they become full of holes and are kind of transparent. Then I remove what I can with my hand and vacuum up any remaining debris. They last me about 5 months this way, give or take a month. I don't think this effected my water quality at all. I keep my leaves in little 'piles'. I think it looks better that way and thats the way the apistos seem to prefer them. Maybe every couple months or so, I'll gently move the pile one leaf at a time to a new location in the tank, then vacuum the spot where it was.

Oak leaves are said to have a modest, positive effect on pH and Hardness.

Michael
 

canon8838

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i kind off see a transparent bit on the end of the leave, does that mean it is rotting?

is the transparent gunk bad?
 

cootwarm

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Yes. That is what's happening. I leave mine in until most of the entire leaf is transparent, but while the bulk of them can still be removed by hand without falling a part.

Someone else can probably explain it's effect on the water quality. But I don't think it's harmful as long it doesn't accumulate too much, as leaf litter is part of the apistos natural environment.

When I use peat treated water, I get simular debris settling on the bottom after a day or two.

Michael
 

lil-fishy

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I have heard that leaves lower PH slightly (like driftwood) because they release tanic acid. The effect should be minimal, but in some cases, atleast with wood, it can be significant. Since the leaves are much small, though, I would think the effect would be slight.
 

cootwarm

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Hi lil-fishy,

Yes the acidic effect is slight, you at least need peat moss to treat the water to really make a difference. I think Oak leaves are used mostly for the comfort of the apistos, as this pretty much replicates their natural habitat. I know mine get very excited when I put a new pile of oak leaves in the tank. They swim in and out and in between the leaves. A couple piles of oak leaves also provide sanctuary for fry and any sub-dominant apistos that may be in the tank.

Myself, I think they look sharp in a tank. The right arrangements of oak leaves, plants and driftwood has a fantastic natural appearance. I like the natural look. I like the plants in 'clumps' and the leaves in piles. Oh yeah. Can't forget the Java Moss covered coconut shell caves!

Michael
 

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