Is a. sp d51 available for import ?

[anewbie]

Does anyone know if a. sp d51 is a species that is imported to usa ? This is a species that Frank mentioned in a comment to a post i made.

 

[MacZ]

As far as I can tell, they are not available anywhere at the moment.

 

[anewbie]

As far as I can tell, they are not available anywhere at the moment.

Do you know if they have ever been available the past 2 or 3 years ?

 

[MacZ]

According to Tom's Website he got them 2022 and it seems to have been the first import to Europe.
The same page says they come from eastern Colombia. And that might be the reason. Possibly militia like ELN or FARC interrupting collection and export.

 

[Apistoguy52]

If memory serves, the location was pretty remote, and required a tractor ride of a couple hours to reach. Think the only way your going to get those is taking a trip with Daniel.

 

[anewbie]

And who is Daniel? I presume he is a local guide of sort ?

 

[Apistoguy52]

And who is Daniel? I presume he is a local guide of sort ?

He’s the D number Apistogramma guy. Apistogramma sp D(aniel Mejia) 51

 

[anewbie]

He’s the D number Apistogramma guy. Apistogramma sp D(aniel Mejia) 51

Oh - i thought he was a tour guide who lived down in Columbia.

 

[Apistoguy52]

Oh - i thought he was a tour guide who lived down in Columbia.

He lives in Bogota iirc, tour guide, exporter, think he’s really into amphibians…dart frogs?

 

[MacZ]

think he’s really into amphibians…dart frogs?

Heard something like that, too. In any case, if you want something rare from the region that can be kept in a terrarium or aquarium, he's the one to contact.

 

[anewbie]

Heard something like that, too. In any case, if you want something rare from the region that can be kept in a terrarium or aquarium, he's the one to contact.

Naw; i have enough problems with fishes; last thing i need is to be chasing after froggies running around my house.

 

[MacZ]

Naw; i have enough problems with fishes; last thing i need is to be chasing after froggies running around my house.

Not really escape artists, but I get what you mean.

 

[Mike Wise]

TomC was with Daniel when many of the D# fish were collected. If you really want some species it is best to do what Tom does - go there and collect them. If the fish are the only reason for the trip, however, it will be very expensive. When Tom and I went to the Peru/Ecuador/Colombia borders in 2012 to find A. cf. payaminonis (= A. wolli now) and A. sp. Rocafuerte it cost us ~$800, mostly in fuel. At least we found the fish we were looking for. In 2008 we went to Colombia looking for what is now A. megastoma. No luck, but we did see Colombian National Police arrest a group of suspected FARC guerillas.

 

[Jacobus]

Do you know if they have ever been available the past 2 or 3 years ?

Utaka, Amersfoort, The Netherlands had them 2 months ago. They were gone in a week.
I have a pair but no fry yet.

 

[anewbie]

Utaka, Amersfoort, The Netherlands had them 2 months ago. They were gone in a week.
I have a pair but no fry yet.

Can you post pictures; i'm in usa but at least it means someone is either breeding them in europe or importing them.

 

[anewbie]

deleted. Junk comment.

 

[Jacobus]

Utaka had young fish (F1, F2?) from a Dutch breeder who decided to stop breeding, for a while at least.
I got mine from him too.
Pictures showing the D52 are his. So credits for him.
I have not been able to get pictures showing my own pair. They are extremely elusive and shy. The first weeks they never showed themselves. Now they only appear in sight when I sit motionless in the room watching their tank.

 

[KenL]

Utaka, Amersfoort, The Netherlands had them 2 months ago. They were gone in a week.
I have a pair but no fry yet.

Pictures please…

 

[anewbie]

He posted pictures of D52; not sure if he has pictures of the D51....

 

[Frank Hättich]

He posted pictures of D52; not sure if he has pictures of the D51....

It's actually pictures of D51. Tom also has some pictures on his site: https://www.tomc.no/fish.aspx?fishIndexID=2608&gruppeID=1