ID: A.cacatuoides or A.bitaeniata?

[valice]

What species is this?

 

[fishgeek]

nice looking blue cacatoides
or someone will correct me and call it a jurensis?! if so can your point out the differences to me to

thanks andrew

 

[cageman]

I think A. sp. "Schwarzkinn/Blackchinn"
Although the Caudal spot is not really separated.

 

[valice]

it was found in a bag of A.bitaeniata 'Purutu' in a Peru shipment...
hope this info will help to better ID him...

 

[Mike Wise]

The chin markings look like those of A. sp. Black-chin more than A. cacatuoides. I think more photos of this fish are needed to be sure of the identity. It certainly is not A. bitaeniata.

 

[valice]

Frontal shots required?
Will try to get some... Hopefully not sold in the shops yet...

 

[valice]

One more picture of the guy

 

[Roach]

Beautiful looking fish whatever it is.
I thought it might be a wild caca at first but not sure now

 

[Mike Wise]

One more picture of the guy

For some reason, I can't see the photo.

 

[fishgeek]

mike can you explain why this fish is different from a cacatoides?

andrew
still being id-challenged

 

[valice]

For some reason, I can't see the photo.

Updated the link... The other server seems to have problems...

 

[Mike Wise]

mike can you explain why this fish is different from a cacatoides?

andrew
still being id-challenged

The chin pattern seems to be more extensive on the fish pictured than is seen on A. cacatuoides. For those who own Römer's Atlas you can compare chin patterns of A. cacatoides & A. sp. Schwarzkinn/Black-chin (erroneously identified as A. juruensis) on page 79. I still am not certain which species is in the picture. A photo in fright pattern (or after being in the dark) would show whether or not the lateral band continues into the tail or if there is a separate caudal spot. Like A. juruensis, A. sp. Black-chin has a separate caudal spot. Right now I'm leaning toward it being A. cacatuoides with an unusually expansive chin pattern.