Hongsloi female

[yukondog]

I ordered a pair of Hongsloi, the female I received looks nothing like the female I have, there body shape is the same, the dorsolateral line is not a zipper shape but more solid, has the stripe through the eye but body color is not the mottled brown but blue colored, does this sound right?

 

[yukondog]

Caught it and looked at it better, the line does have a zipper shape, but its blue as blue can get.
The new male and female [original female] are fighting, it looks like the female is the aggressor and she turned yellow while I was watching them, the new female is smaller also if that helps any.

 

[yukondog]

anything?

 

[yukondog]

 

[yukondog]

The original female on left new one on right.

 

[yukondog]

 

[yukondog]

This is the male,

 

[rappaz]

The male looks like a hongsloi for me, but i think the first female is a macmasteri "viejita" (not the true apistogramma viejita, an apistogramma macmasteri that is sold as viejita) but i'm not 100% sure with those pictures, take some more if you can

sorry for my bad english

 

[yukondog]

 

[yukondog]

Help, anything?

 

[rappaz]

I still can't say anything for sure... wait for mike wise or another expert member to help you

 

[yukondog]

Ya, I was hoping for Mike to chime in.

 

[yukondog]

Calling all apisto experts.

 

[Mike Wise]

For some reason I can't download the photos, sorry. Maybe you need to downsize them.

 

[yukondog]

 

[yukondog]

Sorry don't know how to downsize, when it comes to technology I really am a dummy.

 

[yukondog]

I tried to post it again, did anything work ok , I guess just because I can see it doesn't mean anybody else can. When it come to computers I suck at it.

 

[Mike Wise]

Well from what I see now I can't say what they are. The photos don't show any real diagnostic features on the fish. I will say this, however. Don't worry too much about the body color since there are domestic 'A. hongsloi' that can be yellow or bluish. Body shape can be a problem, too. The domestic strains of this fish were in all likelihood developed by crossing several different forms/(species?). Some were slender, some deep-bodied.

 

[yukondog]

So do you think all three of them are Hongsloi and can you tell if the two are females? I know the bottom left is a male the blue one. Someone told me that the top center one might be a Macmastri , from what I've been reading and looking up the Hongsloi is in that group, if so will the hongs and Mac cross breed? Don't want to, I prefer to keep all the same.

 

[Mike Wise]

As I wrote before, "from what I see now I can't say what they are". I'd need better photos that show their dark markings better.