Apistogramma matses?

[Jelle Touwen]

Hallo,

In the LFS I saw this apistogramma. They are labelled apistogramma wildcaught peru. After some research I believe them to be apistogramma 'matses' can anybody confirm this?
I am sorry for the bad quality of the pictures, I had to take them with my mobile phone.

 

[themountain]

WOW..that are nice fishes...the blue on boys gillcover is amazing! :O
Why cant I buy stuff like this here??

 

[Cichlid Junkie]

They are amazing looking fish. Did you buy them?

 

[Jelle Touwen]

No, i did not buy them. First I wanted to know what they are. At this moment I have 2.5 apistogramma bitaneata in my tank. And I don't think it's a good idea to mix them.

 

[Mike Wise]

I can't be certain from these photos. They just aren't good enough. I can narrow it down to 2 species, however: A. nijsseni and A. sp. Oregon. These are the only 2 species in which the male has a low and even dorsal spines, plus a round caudal. Based on the color, I tend toward A. nijsseni.

 

[Jelle Touwen]

Thank you Mike, that is not what I expected. What kind of photo do you need to distinguish these 2 species. This topic is about the same fish, maybe this helps.
http://www.apistogramma.com/forum/threads/a-nijssini.17349/#post-84293

 

[Mike Wise]

Photos of the fish that are in focus and cropped to show the fish around 500 pixels long would definitely help. As you noted, your cell phone is not the ideal equipment for photographing small moving object in dim light. For other suggestions, check the following: http://www.apistogramma.com/forum/threads/i-d-question-check-list.9144/.

 

[Rolo]

Hi,

I don't think, they are A. sp. Oregon, Mike.
The caudal spot is much too small at the male, and at the female, the lateral spot is too big.

So, my guess would be A. nijsseni.

Here two pictures of A. sp. Oregon:

regards,
Rolo

 

[Jelle Touwen]

These pictures are taken a while ago, of the same fishes. Quality is a bit better i think. Maybe this helps?

 

[Mike Wise]

Yes, based on the latest photos I would agree with Rolo's ID that they are A. nijsseni.