Ap.Inca 50

[mervin]

Greetings,

The number 50 in Inca 50, does it meaning anything ???
Because from where I come from we just call them Incas.

thanks
mervin

 

[Rolo]

The number 50 in Inca 50, does it meaning anything ???
Because from where I come from we just call them Incas.

I don't know, where the "50" comes from. I guess, that name is only used in the U.S. I never heard it outside this forum. ;-)
Here in Germany this species is always just called A. sp. "Inka"
I have to look, who named this species, if either Lucanus gave it that name (or is Highfin-Panduro the name, Lucanus gave this species?) or Koslowski or Warzel or someone else... but I'm pretty sure, that this species is named "Inka" or "Inca" in that publishment and not "Inca50".

I suppose, tat the "50" could probably be a specification of the locality, as a milestone description? ... but that's only wild guess by me, I have no idea.

greetings,
Rolo

 

[mervin]

hello Rolo,
How is the winter in Germany ????
very cold ah !!!
i will be leaving for Frankfurt tomorrow but unforunately you are so far away.

hahaha !!!
thanks for replying.

regards,
mervin

 

[Zapisto]

hey mervin,

will you bring fish back by plane ?
i was wondering , how this is possible, because i travel a lot too and never even try do it , i always think that was impossible.

 

[mervin]

hi Zapisto,

why not ???
yes, i have brought back fishes before.
just hand carried it into the cabin.

don't feel comfortable in "checking" it in.

here in Singapore, the customs are rather lax in fishes as long as they are not on the "endangered" list.

mervin

 

[Neil]

The way these sp. names fly around, I never really gave it much thought.

I suppose, tat the "50" could probably be a specification of the locality, as a milestone description? ... but that's only wild guess by me, I have no idea.

I think Rolo has made a pretty good guess here. It could refer to 50 Kilometers from some town or other landmark. As far as I know, Julio Melgar was the first to collect and export the High-finned Nijsseni, but i am not absolutely sure. He, and others, have a tendancy to tag a fish with a name that has some significance, but is not the actual collection location. They like to keep these things secret from other collectors for awhile at least.
I just kept using the 50 on the name. Most are just using Inca or Inka now though, so I guess I should get with the times and drop the 50. There is also a fish tagged as Inka II in Germany that I saw recently. Not sure this is the High-finned Panduro or another.

Neil

 

[Rolo]

I think Rolo has made a pretty good guess here. It could refer to 50 Kilometers from some town or other landmark.

..... it would have made more sense to name the Harlequin "inca50", because the location of the Ap. sp. "Harlekin" (Harlequin, Highfin-Panduro) is 50 kilometres away from the location of the Inca and the Harlekin was found while searching for the - at that time still unknown - Inca locality ;-) So are you sure, we talk about the same fish? *g* ... uh, thats too confusing ;-) .... forget it.... I'm just kidding! :roll:
(btw: do you have detailed informations about the locality of the Harlekin?)

As far as I know, Julio Melgar was the first to collect and export the High-finned Nijsseni, but i am not absolutely sure.
He, and others, have a tendancy to tag a fish with a name that has some significance, but is not the actual collection location. They like to keep these things secret from other collectors for awhile at least.

This species was first described from Japan (Awave-Magazin, No 21) and shortly after in the german DATZ introduced as "Ap. sp. "Inka" by Masatoshi Kuratsu (which is quite unusual, that a japanese author publishes in a german magazine). But I have no info, wo catched the fish.
Julio Melgar works close with Ingo Koslowski, so I'm not sure, that Julio is the man who catched the Inka first?

There is also a fish tagged as Inka II in Germany that I saw recently. Not sure this is the High-finned Panduro or another.

The current name of that species is Ap. sp. "Zwilling" (twin) and it's quite similar to the Inka, but with lower dorsal membranes and different blackmarks. The High-finned Panduro is the sp. "Harlekin" - quite different to both.

greetings,
Rolo