A. papagei or not?

[M.ramirezi]

While watching some pictures of female A. papagei, I noticed that my females look nothing like them.
They act normal towards the males though, and I'm sure they're A. papagei.

The females:

Males:

Are these A. papagei or not?

 

[Mike Wise]

Are these domestic bred fish? They really don't quite look like A. papagei. I could be wrong. The photos are rather small and not very good for ID purposes.

 

[M.ramirezi]

I have no idea actually. I guess they're domestic bred.

I'll try to make some better photos today.
This is a photo of the same fish on the fourth photo (made by the previous owner of the fish):

 

[M.ramirezi]

I made some new photos, hopefully these are better.

This is wat the females normally look like:

 

[Mike Wise]

Well the top photo looks more like Papagei (the other photos show a weird color cast due to bad white balance (color temperature selection) by your camera). Still not as colorful and a bit more robust than the typical wild Papagei. If these are domestic fish there is a possibility that they are a cross between Papagei and one of the closely related species. Both A. sp. Pebas & Roca Eterna have deeper bodies, like your fish. On the other hand, your fish could just be showing that it's being well/overly fed. Now what do the females look like?

 

[M.ramirezi]

These are the females (I edited the photos a bit, this is what they look like in reality):

This is what the males look like:

They do get quite alot of food, due to my young angelfish.
My A. agassizii male is huge (around 10 cm) and a bit fat too.

 

[Mike Wise]

Sorry, but they don't look like females of any Pebas-subcomplex species that I know. Appear to be males.

 

[M.ramirezi]

Really? They don't act like males towards the male 'papagei' or agassizii...
They have even shown mating behavior towards each other.

Maybe it is indeed the weird result of a cross between A. papagei/sp. Pebas/sp. Roca Eterna?

If not, do you have any idea what the 'females' could be?

 

[merlin]

I dont see females. Not had a chance to look up my books to ID them.

 

[M.ramirezi]

So... Than maybe they're young males, or pretending to be females?
To be honest, I don't think they look like females at all, it is just their behavior that makes me think they're females.

I'll contact the store, maybe they let me exchange them for 2 real females.