Viejita and Cacatuoides

[yukondog]

I have what was sold to me as a F1 Viejita now that he is grown I would like a identification if can be, I contacted the importer and he said he is the one that got the wild parents, here is the male And another one I received as a wild Cacatuoidesnot from importer but through someone else.

 

[yukondog]

I know I asked about the Viejita before, but now as a adult I thought it might help.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I know I asked about the Viejita before,

I don't know what he is, but he is a smart fish.

And another one I received as a wild Cacatuoides

My guess is that is the right ID.

cheers Darrel

 

[yukondog]

Thanks Darrel, I hope your right, maybe Mike will chime in and confirm or not on both.

 

[CRD]

F1 Viejita "Porto Gaitan" or Mac.?

These were sold to me as Viejita, I have contacted the original importer and he tells me he imported them as a wild pair in march of last year, these came to me as F1's from the person who breed them. They dont look like my Mac's. [color or tail spot] but that really dont mean much. I was only...

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Frank was correct then

 

[yukondog]

Any idea on the cacatuoides?

 

[CRD]

Any idea on the cacatuoides?

It looks like a cacatuoides

 

[yukondog]

It should have said wild or mutt, was sold as wild.

 

[CRD]

wild type

 

[yukondog]

Frank was correct then

I glad he is.

 

[Ethan]

yukondog, Im almost positive im the one that sold you the viejita. I promise you theyre 100% the real deal

 

[Josse]

I'm no expert, but that looks more like allpahuayo than cacatuoides to me

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I'm no expert, but that looks more like allpahuayo than cacatuoides to me

I wondered about that, but A. allpahuayo, as well as the black chin ( ‘Schwarzkinn'), should have a detached black caudal peduncle blotch and red/orange lips.

I get more of these wrong than right, so you may well be right.

cheers Darrel

 

[Josse]

It already sounds like you know much more than me. My comment was based on more superficial characteristics than you have mentioned. I'll bow out of this one I think!

 

[Ethan]

No thats 100% wild cacatuoides. You can tell by the orange spot on the tail. Allpahoyo and Cacatuoides are in the same family so theyll look similar anyways but that spot shows its cacatuoides

 

[Josse]

Thank you Ethan. I hope to keep learning

 

[Ethan]

I have what was sold to me as a F1 Viejita now that he is grown I would like a identification if can be, I contacted the importer and he said he is the one that got the wild parents, here is the male View attachment 9398 And another one I received as a wild CacatuoidesView attachment 9399not from importer but through someone else.

You bought the Viejita from me. Im really happy to see they are alive and well!

 

[Bowluvr]

I have what was sold to me as a F1 Viejita now that he is grown I would like a identification if can be, I contacted the importer and he said he is the one that got the wild parents, here is the male View attachment 9398 And another one I received as a wild CacatuoidesView attachment 9399not from importer but through someone else.

That is true viejita. The red dorsal lappets and spot pattern are correct for viejita. Also, if you got them from Ethan, then definitely the correct fish, as they are offspring from my wild pairs that I sold to him to distribute. Not macmasteri. Collection location I received my wild fish with is "Puerto Gaitan."

 

[yukondog]

They are some of yours, I'm about to send ten of the fry to someone else in Kansas who had some of yours but all died, I need some new blood, do you have any more?

 

[yukondog]

You bought the Viejita from me. Im really happy to see they are alive and well!

I got these from Bowluvr back in the middle of 2019 .