Sexing Apistogramma Hongsloi

[Rcon021]

Hi guys
Hope everyone is doing well.
Could you please help me to sex these two Apistogramma Hongsloi. They are both 4-5cm and doing well tofetjn

Thanks in advance

 

[MacZ]

Second one for sure a male. The first picture ... 65% it's a male, too.

 

[anewbie]

This species can be very hard to sex. Time will tell...

 

[rasmusW]

Is the first one hongsloi?
If so I think MacZ is right. Male too.

-r

 

[Mike Wise]

The first photo probably shows a male, too, but not positive. It also seems to be a different form/species in the hongsloi-complex, but again I'm not sure. That is the problem with photos of fish showing different positions and lighting.