Please help ID.

[Didgeridoo]

Hey folks,

I picked these up from a LFS. The manager had no idea what they were and so I agreed to take some home and work with them. Here's some pics of the male and one of the subdominant males.

If you can ID this fish that'd be awesome! I've looked through Datz A-numbers, the new one and nothing looked close. It may be a regani-type but I'm not an expert on that. Also it was sold to the LFS as wild caught A. agassizi 'Flamenco' which is a trade name I think.

Thanks a lot,

Nick

 

[Didgeridoo]

Couple more pics.

Notice on the caudal that the top half is orange and the bottom half is blue. I haven't seen this in any of the books. Also the pectoral fin is really bright orange/yellow. Just a couple details which might determine an ID. Anyways, thanks again.

Nick

 

[Chris(wildcaught!)]

I think this is A. cruzi.

In the Datz book it should be A83, however it is not the best picture in the book.

Regards / Chris

 

[Noddy65]

Hey Didge
Looks pretty similar to my fish. Check out the post:
http://forum.apistogramma.com/showthread.php?t=4449

I think they are A. eunotus.
They were imported into Aus a few years ago and are still doing the rounds but many of the LFs dont know what they are.

Mike

 

[Joost S]

This for sure is no A.agassizii. It si a regani member and I agree with Noddy; A.eunotus 'Orangeschwanz.'

 

[Didgeridoo]

I've been talking with some local apisto breeders, one of whom bred these fish and hasn't ID'd them yet either had a good point. Observe the body shape, it's longer than most of the regani complex. Also the half and half caudal must be a determining factor. If it helps the shipment came from Peru. This may or may not narrow things down. They are wild fish so it's possible that there's a couple species. I'm going to separate a subdominant and see what he colours up like.

Anyways thanks for replies and hopefully we can have an idea of what it is.

Nick

 

[Mike Wise]

Your fish is a member of the eunotus-complex, closely relted to A. cruzi, but is not the true cruzi. Ignore the color of the tail. It is a bit unusual. Compare your fish with A82. Note where the lateral band ends high in the caudal peduncle, in front of the caudal spot. The caudal spot is rectangular & vertical (the caudal spot of A. cruzi has a 'notch' removed from the back, making it slightly crescent shaped). They yellow to orange pectoral fins, combined with the above black markings all point to your fish being A. sp. Nanay/Melgar (A82).

 

[Didgeridoo]

Thanks Mike. That's the one I was leaning towards as well but wanted a positive ID. The male really fired up today and the tail went totally orange instead of the half and half. Unfortunately I couldn't get a picture. Anyways, I'm very confident with your identification and I appreciate everyone's help.

Nick