Need Help With ID

[PRcichlid]

I'm not sure if it is Apistograma sp."Rotpunkt", "Puerto Narino" or "Schwarzsaum". For me it resemble most to A. sp "Puerto Narino". What do you think??.....:






Thanks in advance

 

[Chromedome]

FYI, the species was described in 2004 as Apistogramma alacrina by Kullander. I've had both Rotpunkt and Schwarzsaum strains, but haven't seen the Puerto Narino yet. That said, your fish is certainly the same species as these, but doesn't look like the ones I've had, which suggests Puerto Narino. (I know, that's kind of a back door way of getting to the ID, but it's all I've got!)

Very nice fish, BTW. I guess I need to get some Puerto Narino strain, the others weren't quite that colorful!

 

[Mike Wise]

FYI, the species was described in 2004 as Apistogramma alacrina by Kullander.

Well, I would like to squash this "fact", but it still continues. Kullander originally introduced A. sp. Rotpunct to the hobby in 1974 with a discussion of meristics, etc. This was not a scientific description, but he examined it in detail. In correspondence with Kullander by several apistophiles, Kullander stated that he cannot consider the hobby form A. sp. Rotpunct to be the same species as A. alacrina. There are differences in the 2 forms, as well as problems with distribution. A. sp. Rotpunct and A. alacrina may be only parts of a group of populations/species that - like A. agassizii - forms a recently speciating superspecies.

The Puerto Narino form (No one seems to know for sure, but it is probably named for the Colombian town of that name that sits on the Amazon - not the town on the Orinoco.) tends to be yellow color morph of the Schwarzsaum form of A. sp. Rotpunct. Yours are not as yellow as some I've seen under this name. Personally, I feel the name means nothing unless it actually was exported from Puerto Narino. Do you know if these are wildcaught specimens or domestic bred?

 

[PRcichlid]

First of all, thanks to both of you for taking your time to answer my dilemma . Sorry for miss that info Mike. Based on the importer they are wild caught from Colombia. I bought them as A. agassizii but by that time I really thought they were A. macmasteri. I breed them at a pH 6.8 ( pure R/O ) and their clutch is small, 25 fry or less. Here's pictures of a female raising fry: