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Ivanacara bimaculata eggs

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Lovely fish. Wish they were more available.
IN USA they are frequently available now for around $30 and price dropping as they breed easily. Here is a pointer to a couple of places that have them for sale:

There are a few other places - i think they have dropped about 60% the past year. The sad thing is all the fishes come from the same group imported a few (4?) years ago so as far as i know no fresh blood.
 
IN USA they are frequently available now for around $30 and price dropping as they breed easily. Here is a pointer to a couple of places that have them for sale:

There are a few other places - i think they have dropped about 60% the past year. The sad thing is all the fishes come from the same group imported a few (4?) years ago so as far as i know no fresh blood.
I have a pair coming from Moonlight but have the same concern regarding fresh blood. I hope to find some new ones as well. Sadly, F3 is not ideal.
 

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As far as i can tell they form strong bonds (not sure if it is for life); though oddly enough the odd male out is not harmed - but will be sometime chased away. At least that was my experience. However the two females can have deadly confrontation in a small aquarium.
Each pair is kept in its own tank now, so there's no risk of the females fighting
 

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I have a pair coming from Moonlight but have the same concern regarding fresh blood. I hope to find some new ones as well. Sadly, F3 is not ideal.
The most recently imported specimens of I. bimaculata were brought in by hobbyist/collectors. The species occurs so far from commercial collecting locations that it is not economical for commercial collectors to collect them. So unless other hobbyists go and collect new specimens it is unlikely that we will get 'new blood'.
 
The most recently imported specimens of I. bimaculata were brought in by hobbyist/collectors. The species occurs so far from commercial collecting locations that it is not economical for commercial collectors to collect them. So unless other hobbyists go and collect new specimens it is unlikely that we will get 'new blood'.
Too bad...I contacted another seller from a different state but he hasn't replied as to his source, oh well...
 

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Too bad...I contacted another seller from a different state but he hasn't replied as to his source, oh well...
Kind of pointless - someone on these forums know the details around the collector and i believe only 2 small batches were collected - on the bright side it was in the past decade so they are not quite as inbred as some of the other rarely collected fishes. I also believe (perhaps incorrectly) that i read that site was endangered.
 
Kind of pointless - someone on these forums know the details around the collector and i believe only 2 small batches were collected - on the bright side it was in the past decade so they are not quite as inbred as some of the other rarely collected fishes. I also believe (perhaps incorrectly) that i read that site was endangered.
Isn't an F3 generation getting into serious inbred characteristics such as deformities, lack of immunity and other traits? Input is welcome...I am not an expert on genetics ;).
 
No, it is only a problem if the breeder doesn't cull specimens that are not up to par.
I believe he does. Looking forward to receiving my pair and will report back. I loved the days when I was breeding Discus and Angels but it took a lot of space (tanks) and time.

Now, I want smaller cichlids with parenting skills. These ones plus Curviceps should be fun.

Also enjoying my Cockatoo cichlid pair...
 
I believe he does. Looking forward to receiving my pair and will report back. I loved the days when I was breeding Discus and Angels but it took a lot of space (tanks) and time.

Now, I want smaller cichlids with parenting skills. These ones plus Curviceps should be fun.

Also enjoying my Cockatoo cichlid pair...
Speaking of Curviceps (yes, I know this is an Apisto Forum) but, a vendor is offering 2" Curviceps for sale but do not offer sexual choice. Well, 2" fish are close to maturity and should be showing sexual differences.

I asked them for clarification, to which they responded, "shipping does not provide for that". Well, I am not asking for a pair. I am willing to buy four but would like two pair. Apparently, those "in shipping" can't determine sexes and only dip their nets into the tank, catch four and ship them out.

Needless to say, I haven't ordered any from them...might as well order babies at a lower price, elsewhere, and grow them out. There is a lot to be said about customer service!
 

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Be aware that most sellers in USA who are selling domestic curviceps are actually selling dorsigera so if you want real curviceps be sure to examine pictures closely.

Also if you want to talk about a laetacara species you should start a new thread in dwarf cicihld section.
 

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This is the subforum for non-apisto SA dwarf cichlids.

On another note, if I want a species that are not sexed for whatever reason I will always buy at least 6. Statistically this gives you a 96% chance of getting both sexes. Of course it requires that the original population is about even for each sex.
 

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The second breeding pair has also eaten the eggs/wrigglers. The female was still guarding the pot this morning (day 5 or 6 I think) so I believe the eggs should have hatched but the wrigglers were eaten this afternoon
 

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The Ivanacara bimaculatas seem to be playing tag. The 3rd pair spawned just as the eggs/wrigglers of the 2nd pair disappeared.

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The 3rd pair ended up eating the wrigglers on the day they hatched. Fast forward a week and the 1st pair has laid eggs again. Wonder how many tries they will take to be successful. So far only the 4th pair hasn't spawned yet.

In other news, I have fry from my Apistogramma rositae pair, and a few other pairs of apistogramma are showing promise (elizabethae, ladislao and uaupesi). The ladislao female has been bright yellow for weeks but no eggs laid yet. My Crenicichla regani "Tapajos" pair suddenly killed a crystal red tetra that they've been cohabiting with peacefully for months, and the female hides a lot in a cave, only coming out to eat. I wonder if there are eggs in the cave and they killed the tetra guarding them?
 

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I could never get my ladislao to spawn - would be curious what triggers it - i have 1 pair at 76 ec 30 and another group (1 male 5 females) at 79 ec 35. Both sets are around 2 years old now.
 

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I could never get my ladislao to spawn - would be curious what triggers it - i have 1 pair at 76 ec 30 and another group (1 male 5 females) at 79 ec 35. Both sets are around 2 years old now.
Possibly too late???
 

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The 3rd pair ended up eating the wrigglers on the day they hatched. Fast forward a week and the 1st pair has laid eggs again. Wonder how many tries they will take to be successful. So far only the 4th pair hasn't spawned yet.

In other news, I have fry from my Apistogramma rositae pair, and a few other pairs of apistogramma are showing promise (elizabethae, ladislao and uaupesi). The ladislao female has been bright yellow for weeks but no eggs laid yet. My Crenicichla regani "Tapajos" pair suddenly killed a crystal red tetra that they've been cohabiting with peacefully for months, and the female hides a lot in a cave, only coming out to eat. I wonder if there are eggs in the cave and they killed the tetra guarding them?
Your collection sounds great.
 

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