Wild Apisto Panduro Problem??

[Lugardo14]

I just got a pair of Apisto Panduro and i have them in a 25G, well since day one the female was the dominant one in the pair and the male was always hiding but after rescaping and doing a water change the male is now being the bully, so my question is how would the dominance change cause of the rescape?? Thanks for the help

 

[abrooks12376]

He just wants to make some babies! They're extremely aggressive fish. Just make sure he's not inflicting damage and you should have some wigglers soon enough.

 

[Mike Wise]

Once you rescaped the aquarium, you removed all the territories previously established. Both fish are trying to reestablish territories. This time the male has established his territory first. Most nijsseni-group species, including A. panduro, are choosy about breeding partners. Your 'pair' may be mismatched.

 

[Lugardo14]

So will they still breed? An is their a way i could make them get along woth each other or no?

 

[abrooks12376]

I had a pair in a 10 for a while, no action, male stayed in a cave all the time. Moved them to a 20l, spawn 8 days later.. do give them a little while, is she canary with a black vertical bar?

 

[Lugardo14]

Well their small and here is the pair

 

[abrooks12376]

2 females sub Dom takes on male traits to avoid getting beat to death.

 

[abrooks12376]

Same fish.

 

[Lugardo14]

So their is no change of them breeding since their not a actual pair??

 

[abrooks12376]

So their is no change of them breeding since their not a actual pair??

There is no chance because it's 2 females, you need one male and one female to make babies

 

[Lugardo14]

Yeah i know, but i only see only with a fully yellow body and one with blue and just yellow on the tips of the buttom dorsal fins

 

[abrooks12376]

Yeah i know, but i only see only with a fully yellow body and one with blue and just yellow on the tips of the buttom dorsal fins

They're both females, you'll need to take one back and get a def. Male. I don't know how much more clearly I can put it. I'd take the one that doesn't look like a female back..

 

[Lugardo14]

This is the male i hand picked myself

 

[Lugardo14]

An the female colored up more now that i got a male this time

 

[abrooks12376]

This is the male i hand picked myself

Fem

 

[Mike Wise]

So will they still breed?

Many times they will, but it isn't very harmonious. Fry are often lost. A well mated pair usually have no problems.

An is their a way i could make them get along woth each other or no?

I'd give them time to sort out their living arrangements. If one is continually being harassed by the other, then it's best to separate them permanently.

 

[rr16]

Not sure why you think this is female but it is definitely a male and a female. I've found that having a lot of leaf litter helped as my female had previously mated with my A. nijsseni male (which was bought young as a A. panduro). I later added a small wild male A. panduro and she chased him all over. He hid in leaf litter and in Hydrocotyle leucocephala and was eventually accepted when she came into season, so you could try lots of leaf litter.

 

[abrooks12376]

Not sure why you think this is female but it is definitely a male and a female. I've found that having a lot of leaf litter helped as my female had previously mated with my A. nijsseni male (which was bought young as a A. panduro). I later added a small wild male A. panduro and she chased him all over. He hid in leaf litter and in Hydrocotyle leucocephala and was eventually accepted when she came into season, so you could try lots of leaf litter.

Saw that heavy black vertical bar and maybe the pectoral fins were not as black as I thought.

 

[rr16]

I have a wild male A. panduro that is quite young who has a strong vertical black bar and also some black colouration at the base of his pectoral fins where they enter the body. I'm assuming he'll get more blue in colour on his flanks as he gets older. He looked almost female for a while but he's fertilised three spawns so far.

 

[abrooks12376]

I have a wild male A. panduro that is quite young who has a strong vertical black bar and also some black colouration at the base of his pectoral fins where they enter the body. I'm assuming he'll get more blue in colour on his flanks as he gets older. He looked almost female for a while but he's fertilised three spawns so far.

Interesting.. I've always thought the black pecs was strictly female, maybe a tank raised thing??