Wild ramirezi pictures

[shoshone]

 

[wethumbs]

They dont look very wild to me. In fact, they seem to be very well behaved.

 

[tompoz]

Beautiful! Much nicer than any of domestic strains.

 

[ApistoNerd23]

Looking good! Still one of my favorite fish of all time. I really like the wild form look!

 

[bigbird]

very nice indeed. cheers jk

 

[halmiris]

Very nice fish.

 

[shoshone]

Thank you all.
I agree with you tompoz, much nicer than any of domestic strains.

 

[Unicorrs]

awww cute! I always wanted a ramirezi, they have brilliant colors.
I agree with wethumbs, LOL!

 

[shoshone]

One more picture

 

[Apistomaster]

I have been meaning to try a group of wild Rams.
I like wild type Discus and Apistogramma more than domestic strains and I don't see any great improvement between wild fish like your Rams and the domestics.
It seems to me like domestic Rams, like domestic Discus, have diminished brood care instincts and getting to watch the brood care is at least half the fun of breeding Cichlids of any kind. I would like to see if my hypothesis holds true with Rams. With domestic Discus I feel lucky to get one reliable pair out of ever four to six mated pairs. The majority of pairs are egg eaters. Nearly all imported domestic Discus come from lines which have been raised artificially for more than 3 decades so breeders are not selecting for good brood care behavior since it has become irrelevant to the Discus farmers.
I bet I have bred domestic Rams 50 times and raised several thousands over the years but I have only had one pair of Gold Rams raise one brood out of all my experience with them. That pair produced an astounding ~400 fry from the one brood and I only used bbs to feed the fry. The parents would take in the bbs and macerate them then spit the shredded shrimp into the cloud of fry which grew much better than those i have raised artificially.

 

[flashbang]

Some of mine, not wild but i have been breeding these for years and i think they look superb
http://youtu.be/3P2_47JbnBQ

 

[Apistomaster]

flashbang,

Your Rams are beautiful.
That is the first time I have ever seen a pair spawn so high off the bottom and on the sides. Looks like they are great parents. Their brood care is what I miss since it has been seen so rarely among Rams I have bred. I have had many get to newly hatched larvae then eat the but most pairs just eat their eggs by the next day. Only had one pair take text book perfect care of a brood.

 

[Rod]

Love rams....very nice fish displayed in this thread!
this is the best example I've owned.....

 

[flashbang]

Hi, they actually spawned on an oak leaf, as all my Rams seem to do..
When they were wriglers the parents transfered them to the side of the tank which had a good growth of algea on the glass, i can assume they did this because there was a small 2 inch L201 in the tank with them ( i managed to remove the L201 soon afterwards).
Rams normally transfer the wriglers to a depression in the sand or a hole in some bogwood

flashbang,

Your Rams are beautiful.
That is the first time I have ever seen a pair spawn so high off the bottom and on the sides. Looks like they are great parents. Their brood care is what I miss since it has been seen so rarely among Rams I have bred. I have had many get to newly hatched larvae then eat the but most pairs just eat their eggs by the next day. Only had one pair take text book perfect care of a brood.