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What is Apistogramma Piero ?

anewbie

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Someone listed a group of 4 'apistogramma piero' on ebay but when I checked Tom's website i could not find this species. Is this a new species or a made up name ?
 

anewbie

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It's not anything I know, but maybe what is meant is A. piaroa?
Thanks; i guess that sounds reasonable. The fishes he photo were too young to hvae much in the way of markings. Sounds like an interesting species in that the aggression is very low and favorable for a colony. This is going off topic but are there many species where aggression with in the species is almost a non issue allowing for multiple males/females to coexist in a modest size aquarium ?
 

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Why do you believe that the aggression is particularly low in A. piaroa? Intraspecific aggression is a difficult topic: there certainly are species that tend to be less aggressive (e.g. A. borellii or A. sp. Mitu), but aggressiveness is nevertheless very much a feature of individual specimens. And it depends on other factors, e. g. like tank size, but sometimes in a counterintuitive way: If I remember correctly, @Tom C kept a group of A. sp. Rautenband (a species notorious for it's aggressiveness) in a large tank and they were extremely aggressive towards each other. He then put them into a small tank and all of a sudden they were peaceful!
 

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Why do you believe that the aggression is particularly low in A. piaroa? Intraspecific aggression is a difficult topic: there certainly are species that tend to be less aggressive (e.g. A. borellii or A. sp. Mitu), but aggressiveness is nevertheless very much a feature of individual specimens. And it depends on other factors, e. g. like tank size, but sometimes in a counterintuitive way: If I remember correctly, @Tom C kept a group of A. sp. Rautenband (a species notorious for it's aggressiveness) in a large tank and they were extremely aggressive towards each other. He then put them into a small tank and all of a sudden they were peaceful!
This is what I saw on Tom's website that make me think aggression was very low:
"Quite peaceful, even when several fishes of both sexes are together."

My interest is i'm setting up a 4x4 (ft,ft/w,l) low ph aquarium and am looking for a species that i can keep as a group in harmony.
 
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Mazan

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I think Tom C mentions A. bitaeniata can be kept in groups in a 4ft tank, would have to check again to be sure.
 

Mazan

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I think Tom C mentions A. bitaeniata can be kept in groups in a 4ft tank, would have to check again to be sure.
I just checked and he says several males can be kept together even in a 160l tank, provided that it is well structured. And that he keeps the fry in there to grow up together.
 

Bowluvr

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Someone listed a group of 4 'apistogramma piero' on ebay but when I checked Tom's website i could not find this species. Is this a new species or a made up name ?
If there are photos included in the listing, perhaps share them here along with the lister (for credit at least), and perhaps that will help others to help with ID.
 

anewbie

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If there are photos included in the listing, perhaps share them here along with the lister (for credit at least), and perhaps that will help others to help with ID.
This is the listing:
 

anewbie

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So the seller meant to write A. Piaroa which itself would be a mistake since it it is something like Uaupesi. Hum. Sort of like a box of candy .... you never know exactly what you are getting....
 

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