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Discussion in 'Dwarf Cichlid Health' started by fishgeek, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. fishgeek

    fishgeek New Member

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    anyone have any personal experience with using flubendazol

    and probably more importantly anyone have any refrenced literature about this medication in fish

    thanks
    andrew
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    Andrew C New Member 5 Year Member

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    Andrew
    Paul Fox on Ian Fullers Cory forum sells it (the Flubenol 15 website is his, but he is an agent for Flubenol) and those that have used it to treat their fish have been impressed with the results.
    http://www.flubenol.co.uk/index.htm

    Hope that is what you are looking for.
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    Cathy G New Member 5 Year Member

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  4. fishgeek

    fishgeek New Member

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    i was actually after some other opinions
    does anyone know what charles harrisons phd is in?

    some of the claims on the flubenol web site are in my opinion not logical and i can not get any supporting evidence for them, i accept that is part of normal promotion for most products

    flubendazol i understand chemically as far as the group of medications it comes from , and it should be a useful wormer along with others from that group of medications
    i was under the impression that flubendazol had been more readily available in europe and was just looking for other opinions as i can not find much scientifically evaluated evidence

    thanks for helping though
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    paul_fox New Member 5 Year Member

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    How many forums are you going to ask about it on :wink:

    whats not logical?
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    fishgeek New Member

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    all the ones i regularly frequent
    how many are you going to tout your product on?
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    paul_fox New Member 5 Year Member

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    Ive merely suggested a med thats widely available in the uk from a number of people and companies and has been for a while, Ive never mentioned on here before, not my fault if you are trying to pick holes in it and question it when you have never ever used it :wink:
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    RiC New Member 5 Year Member

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    Andrew,
    As far as I can remember, Harrison's PhD is in physical chemistry. I might be wrong, someone else coud confirm :wink:
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    fanatstic , thanks for that ric
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    Andrew
    Flubendazole is available in New Zealand as well...you might try some of the NZ local forums. I dont know of any but Im sure Google would help.

    Its mainly a stock wormer (Im assuming sheep, being NZ) but Im sure the local fish guys would use it as well.

    Mike
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    Refael Hdr. Member 5 Year Member

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    I have a good experience using Flubendazole on Discus and wild Apistos, Corys, Loricariidaes and many more fishes, mostly as a preventive treatment but also for internal parasites eruption cases...
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    paul_fox New Member 5 Year Member

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    Andrew

    heres one paper you might also find something here
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    fishgeek New Member

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    charles harrisons last statement
    "While none of the experiments mentioned in this article were performed underscientifically controlled conditions, I believe the results certainly warrant such an investigation. "

    and that is what i am after
    i have seen ancedotal evidence
    i understand the group of medications and agree that in my hands in mammals they are useful against nematodes and protozoa

    the only scientific papers i can find suggest they dont work against protozoa in fish , though this maybe to do with dose, route of administration, water parameters
    i just wish to understand fully why things may or may not work