Quiz... part two

[Rolo]

Hi all,

Well, after finishing the first quiz pretty well (I'm really impressed!), here comes the second one.

...and it's getting a bit harder now ;-)

Have fun!

...and don't forget: please try, not to read the answers of the others ;-)

greetings,
Rolo

 

[Rolo]

Hey guys... no ideas?

Come on!

greetings,
Rolo

 

[mervin]

1st row - Mouthbrooder, female Regani ???, i think is Tucurui ???
2nd row - Female Elizabethae, cf Regani, Juruensis/ sp."BlackChin"
3rd row - Wild CACA, female something, sp. "Xingu" ???
4th row - Winklefleck, female Caca, Paucisquamis ???
5th row - don't know,don't know, Mendenzi



these are my guesses but i have a feeling most are wrong IDs.

 

[Rolo]

these are my guesses but i have a felling most are wrong IDs.

hmm... absolutely not.
Much more of your guesses are correct, than incorrect ;-)

greetings,
Rolo

 

[zmirek]

Here you have few of my guesses:

4- sp. four stripes
6- sp. black chin
7 - wild caca
9 - steel blue
10 - viejita wild form
12 - sp . miua
15 - mendezi

Greetings

 

[Mike Wise]

When do I get to guess??

 

[Rolo]

When do I get to guess??

It seems, that no one else want to guess.... so I don't mind, if you do.

..but I expect, that this time you'll make some mistakes, too!!! *g*

greetings,
Rolo

 

[Mike Wise]

OK here goes:
1. A. sp. Maulbrüter/Mouthbrooder male
2. A. sp. Vielfleck/Multi-spot female
3. A. sp. Wangenflecken/Cheek-spots
4. I have no idea! Have you any other pictures of this fish??
5. A. sp. Putumayo/Algodon II
6. A. sp. Schwarzkinn/Black-chin
7. A. luelingi (Rio Madre de Dios form)
8. ? a female of a regani-complex species
9. A. sp. Xingu
10. ? a male of a regani-complex species?
11. ? A. staecki female
12. ? A. paucisquamis (it looks like paucisquamis, but I see no anal patch)
13. ? A. sp. Nanay/Bleeding-heart/Bleeding
14. ? A. sp. Pebas (Morado/Purple)
15. A. mendezi (Längsstreifen/Long-striped form)

 

[Rolo]

OK here goes:

You should have read the answers of the others... *gggg*
Pretty good, but not as good as the first quiz.
Should I solve or do want to try again?

1. A. sp. Maulbrüter/Mouthbrooder male
2. A. sp. Vielfleck/Multi-spot female
3. A. sp. Wangenflecken/Cheek-spots
5. A. sp. Putumayo/Algodon II
6. A. sp. Schwarzkinn/Black-chin
9. A. sp. Xingu
12. ? A. paucisquamis (it looks like paucisquamis, but I see no anal patch)
15. A. mendezi (Längsstreifen/Long-striped form)

These are correct....
The following not...

4. I have no idea! Have you any other pictures of this fish??

...ask Mervin... *ggg*

7. A. luelingi (Rio Madre de Dios form)

No, it's probably from Nanay/Pucallpa

8. ? a female of a regani-complex species

It's regani-Line, but not Regani group or complex

10. ? a male of a regani-complex species?

Regani-group, yes, but has it's own complex sensu Koslowski

11. ? A. staecki female

No, absolutely not, it's A. aggasizii-Line.
hint:...the face becomes much more red in breeding colour ;-)

13. ? A. sp. Nanay/Bleeding-heart/Bleeding
14. ? A. sp. Pebas (Morado/Purple)

No, but these two are as close related.... just in another complex ;-)

greetings,
Rolo
(I KNOW. that not all pictures are good for identification... but it's a FUN quiz... it's necessary! *g*)

 

[Mike Wise]

Originally Posted by Mike Wise
7. A. luelingi (Rio Madre de Dios form)

No, it's probably from Nanay/Pucallpa

OK, this must be the new blue cacatuoides that is coming in from Europe.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise
8. ? a female of a regani-complex species


It's regani-Line, but not Regani group or complex

The regani-lineage contains the regani-, macmasteri-, Rotpunkt-, borellii-groups, & Apistogrammoides. It doesn't look like a macmasteri-, Rotpunkt- or borrelli-group species to me. The narrow vertical caudal spot is not typical for these species, so that leaves Apistogrammoides pucallpaensis. The anal fin looks wrong; not enough anal spines. I'm not sure what it is.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise
10. ? a male of a regani-complex species?


Regani-group, yes, but has it's own complex sensu Koslowski

Must be A. sp. Winkelfleck/Angle-patch, probably the light form.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise
11. ? A. staecki female


No, absolutely not, it's A. aggasizii-Line.
hint:...the face becomes much more red in breeding colour ;-)

If this is A. sp. Abacaxis/Wilhelmi, it is very strange or the photo is not typical. The lateral band is much too narrow for any agassizii-lineage fish except, maybe, A. sp. Blauspeigel/Blue-spangle.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise
13. ? A. sp. Nanay/Bleeding-heart/Bleeding
14. ? A. sp. Pebas (Morado/Purple)


No, but these two are as close related.... just in another complex ;-)

OK, Nr. 14 is an urteagai-complex species, probably A. urteagai, but I cannot be sure from the photo. I need a photo that shows more dark markings to even guess at Nr. 13.

 

[Rolo]

Hi Mike,

okay.. I solve.
Most are correct now.

OK, this must be the new blue cacatuoides that is coming in from Europe.

No. It's a wild cacatuoides. It was supposed a by-catch of A. sp. Schwarzkinn.

The regani-lineage contains the regani-, macmasteri-, Rotpunkt-, borellii-groups, & Apistogrammoides. It doesn't look like a macmasteri-, Rotpunkt- or borrelli-group species to me. The narrow vertical caudal spot is not typical for these species, so that leaves Apistogrammoides pucallpaensis. The anal fin looks wrong; not enough anal spines. I'm not sure what it is.

It's a female A. hongsloi.
...the (mixed?) breeding form from the first quiz ;-)

If this is A. sp. Abacaxis/Wilhelmi, it is very strange or the photo is not typical. The lateral band is much too narrow for any agassizii-lineage fish except, maybe, A. sp. Blauspeigel/Blue-spangle.

No no no.... it's a female A. eremnopyge *harrharr*

OK, Nr. 14 is an urteagai-complex species, probably A. urteagai, but I cannot be sure from the photo. I need a photo that shows more dark markings to even guess at Nr. 13.

Here you are right. Nr. 14 is A. urteagai.
...and Nr. 13 is the close related A. acrensis.



So here are all together:

1) A. sp. Maulbrüter (Mouthbrooder)
2) A. sp. Vielfleck (Multi-Spot), fem.
3) A. sp. Wangenfleck (Cheek-spots)

4) A. elizabethae, fem.
5) A. sp. Putumayo / Algodon II
6) A. sp. Schwarzkinn (Black-chin)

7) A. cacatuoides
8) A. hongsloi, fem.
9) A. sp. Xingú

10) A. sp. Winkelfleck (Anglespot)
11) A. eremnopyge, fem.
12) A. paucisquamis

13) A. acrensis
14) A. urteagai
15) A. mendezi

 

[mervin]

hahaha !!!

No 11 - mine never look like that, a little too broad or fat. hehehehe.
never heard of no.13 and 14 before......