NEED HELP w Ivanacara Adoketa sexing

[Minu1798]

Hi everyone,
I recently bought 4 I. Adoketa from 2 different sources and I need help sexing them.
#1 and #2 are from my local fish store, they are smaller in size, i don't know if they are fully adult yet but they laid eggs together before (the eggs didn’t hatch).

#3 and #4 are WC from Rio Inca (from tangled up cichlid), I asked him if it’s possible for him to get a big and small one for me bc I want a pair (they are the same size tho)
#3

#4

 

[Apistoguy52]

1&2 both look girly to me. 3 looks male. 4…I’m not sure if it’s a beat down male trying to look female, or actually female. With the Icana fish, the males will develop quite a bit of that rusty red in the face, while the females will carry the rusty red color on the flanks ( but not face)

 

[Minu1798]

1&2 both look girly to me. 3 looks male. 4…I’m not sure if it’s a beat down male trying to look female, or actually female. With the Icana fish, the males will develop quite a bit of that rusty red in the face, while the females will carry the rusty red color on the flanks ( but not face)

Thank you for your reply,
#4 is actually the biggest and dominant in the tank for now

 

[Minu1798]

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[Minu1798]

1&2 both look girly to me. 3 looks male. 4…I’m not sure if it’s a beat down male trying to look female, or actually female. With the Icana fish, the males will develop quite a bit of that rusty red in the face, while the females will carry the rusty red color on the flanks ( but not face)

This is #4 now

 

[Apistoguy52]

This is #4 now

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Are these half grown? 2-3”?

 

[Minu1798]

Are these half grown? 2-3”?

#3 and #4 are full grown I believe, around 3-4 inches