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Norman Fenske

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In order as you see them Triple Reds, 2nd pr Triple Reds F stays in the pot hopefully guarding eggs, trifasciata cannot see them they are small stay hiding mostly, veijita's, Golden Cacatuoides, Orange Flash w/ fry, 55 community cannot see them but have a pr of Orange Flash in the tank
 

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yukondog

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Three pairs but only one breeding [Borellii], I also have two pairs of Hongsloi but have not introduced them yet and two agassizii females and one cockatoids female, one male Bitaeniata I need to get mates for.
 

Norman Fenske

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The LFS where I bought the pr from sold them as veijita which is what I thought but was never quite convinced they were right. After looking at both in some ways they look the same what is the difference if you do not mind??
 

Tom C

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There are loads of info about this on this forum. What you would have found, is that Mike Wise has posted this (quick & dirty) way to separate the 2 species:

1. "If it doesn't have a broad red band along the top of the dorsal fin (males), then it is not A. viejita
(some strains of A. macmasteri have a red/orange band, but not as wide or bright)"

Here is one of my A. viejita showing the red band along the top of the dorsal fin:

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Your fish might have a red/orange band, but not like the band in the A. viejita

2. "If it has a squared-off caudal (with or without extensions), then it is not A. viejita."

Here is one of my A. viejita showing its rounded caudal fin:

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3. "If it has a chunky/husky/robust body, then it is not A. viejita."

Here is one of my A. viejita showing how slender it is:

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and a true A. vijita will never show a red pattern on top of the head / shoulder, as your fish does.

There are other differences too, but these are often the easiest to observe.
Agree?
 

Mike Wise

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Norman, your LFS sold the fish under the name they bought them as, so they weren't trying to fool you. The domestic red form of A. macmasteri has been sold as A. viejita for decades! One of my mantras: Know Your Fish! (I have the Tshirt).

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Bob is my favorite.:)
 

Norman Fenske

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Richmond Va
I agree not upset nothing where I live this is about the best LFS in my area. Its just a fact nobody knows everything there is always somebody doing something a little different. As many varieties of fish there are and even if your staying with one type Agassizi as an example. You could have the same type but it could be from a different area or body of water and there will be differences!! I learned that with Lake Tanganyika's Tropheus as an example.
By the way Bob is the best!!!
 

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I'm clueless. If I say something you can safely ignore it.
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I see that The Wet Spot Tropical Fish currently has the fire red A. agassizi you are looking for. Here is the link:
I've always had good experiences buying from them on line.
Hallo,
I am Hanzle from Holland and keep apistoos for 40 years. Had my own aquarium shop from 1984 till 1988. Always s great fan from apistoos and hyphessobrycon which is s great combination in a Community Aquarium. Perhaps.....in the near future I start breeding apistoos again. Have a 400 liters Community aquarium for hyphessobrycon wadai and apistogramma biteaniata.
I want to get a 55 gallon slightly planted tank with many caves and I am thinking of getting 2 electric blue acaras, 3 blue rams, a apistogramma, 3 angelfish, and some corrydoras. Will that work if I keep the temperature at about and 80 or less?
I have kept fish for quite a long time but never cichlids. I want to find out more about them.
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