ID Please!

[ericbullock]

OK...I'm an Apisto newbie but I've always loved the little buggers. I finally acquired a pair from a local store and I need a hand identifying them. There was some question as to whether they were A. Panduro (which they were sold as) or A. Nijsseni. I've managed to get a few decent photos of the "pair" and I'd like to know if they are in fact Panduros or Nijsseni's instead. The one that I think is the female is beating the crap out of the other fish and has since been removed and placed in a quarantine tank.

Here's a picture of what I think is the male:



And Here's a picture of what I call the female:



Any help ID'ing these guys will be much appreciated!

Cheers,

Eric Bullock
Rockville, MD

 

[fishgeek]

looks like 2 female
and i think nijsseni as the black blotch's on the face are not what i remember of my panduro female
though i am not the best at id

andrew

 

[KenL]

I say 2 female nijssenio as well.

Panduro females do not show the round blotch on the caudal peduncle. The also tend to have a cheek stripe rather than a big blotch.

panduro
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/klaidlaw1/A_panduro_female.jpg

nijsseni
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/klaidlaw1/A_nijsseni_female.jpg

 

[rafael]

I am in agreement with fishgeek, for my also are two females of Apistogramma nijsseni.

Rafael.

 

[ericbullock]

OK...I started to suspect that I had Nijsseni's instead of Panduro's. So two females! I'll see if I can track down a male and have myself a nice little trio.

Just so I know, what differentiates the males from the females?

Thanks for the help everyone,

-eric-

 

[KenL]

Here is a picture of a male http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/klaidlaw1/A_nijsseni_male_threat.jpg

Males are larger and have a blue body colour. Also, no large cheek spot.

 

[fishgeek]

also if they are like panduro, thy are not harem spawners more so definite pairs
thy are reputed to be more choosey about there mates and if you put 3 together i would think you unfortunately may loose one

andrew

 

[ericbullock]

Thanks Ken...

-eb-

 

[Apisto ranch]

My panduro male has the triangel on the tail area with the red line going around the outer area of the tail fin.

Here's a picture of the male just to compair i have pictures of my nijss as well I'll post them t later time.
male panduro

the Nijs male

Nijs females

anoher

The panduro females I'l have to find those pictures. But she has a largeblack spot covering her belly area.

 

[Zapisto]

ericbullock,

Your image is way to big
please edit or they will be deleted

thanks

 

[tjnelson44]

In addition to males having a streak and females having blotch on the cheek, also look at the ventral fins. The females with have black edges on the ventrals while the males won't.
Trevor

 

[P.W.]

Here´s a nice article and a chart, showing the differences between Nijsseni and Panduro.

http://www.petfrd.com/forum/articles.php?action=viewarticle&artid=45

Best regards/ Per

 

[Randall]

Glossostigma elatinoides

Hello Eric,

Nice fish!

How do you get your Glossostigma elatinoides to grow so nicely?

Thanks!

Randall Kohn