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ID confirmation on A. sp Alto Tapiche

Discussion in 'Identification and Morphology' started by AmirA, Jul 27, 2019.

  1. AmirA

    AmirA Member

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    Hello again,

    I'm thinking of buying a pair of Apistogramma sp Alto Tapiche. At least the wholesaler claims they are sp Alto Tapiche. But talking to an apisto guy he suspected these are not real sp Alto Tapiche. Is it possible to tell if they are real? 239029_IM3_19060fcad1db5da9f1482136479b10b5.jpg 239030_IM3_853a79c225574aa0043ef1a7e0fef1e9.jpg
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    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Why does he think they are not Alto Tapiche? They look the same as those collected by Minoru Matsuzaka and Tom Christoffersen in the Río Tapiche to me.
  3. AmirA

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    Well, because of the color of their tails. But I think I will go with your words. You have been right before
    Thanks for the answer!
  4. Mike Wise

    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Color, in general, is not a key feature for apisto ID.
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    Drayden Farci Active Member

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    They look similar to the ones I received last year in the US. I say if you like how they look, get them. They look close enough that, as with any species of animal, you can sit here and argue "real" or not for hours and hours.

    In my opinion: Remember, Alto Tapiche is not "real" as it is only a species name (Apistogramma sp. Alto Tapiche, not Apistogramma tapiche, etc.) Variation among populations is common, like with any organism.
  6. AmirA

    AmirA Member

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    You are right, Drayden. At the end of the day, it all comes to how much one like the looks of them.
    Altough, at a price of roughly 150 USD a pair, I just wanted to be sure it's not A. Eunotus or something like that, as I'm an amateur and can very rarely see the difference.
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    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Identical photos. The OP should have credited the photos to Ruinemans.
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    AmirA Member

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    Yes, they are from Ruinemans. Sorry, I didn't know if I were allowed to mention the name of the company in here. In some forums that is not allowed.
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    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Proper etiquette would have been to link to the photo site. Otherwise it is pirating. Yes, it's common on the internet, but this is why I post so few of my photos on the internet.
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    AmirA Member

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    In that case it was my bad.
    But, isn't a link to a site considered as an ad?
  12. Mike Wise

    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Not to me (nor to ButtNekkid). My real problem is that, from the original post, I though these were your photos. It would be more proper to have at least credited these photos to Ruinemans. Let's face it's nothing earth shaking, although I guess Ruinemanns could sue you for unauthorized use.:eek:
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    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Not to me (nor to ButtNekkid). My real problem is that, from the original post, I though these were your photos. It would be more proper to have at least credited these photos to Ruinemans. Let's face it's nothing earth shaking, although I guess Ruinemanns could sue you for unauthorized use.:eek:
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    Yes, again my bad.
    Well now Ruinemans probably have more apisto enthusiasts interested in that fish ;)