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CopabX

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I woke up this morning to find 5 fry in a small cave. After only 1 hour, they were all gone (I saw them get eaten). The female did try to protect them with some pecking but didn't seem to energized. Is there a way to hand raise the fry?
 

CopabX

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The male was circling the cave but I did see the sub-dominant male snatch one. The other female and tetra probably got them too. The fry aren't swimming so they must've been easy snacks.
 

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There goes my mantra again ... a community tank is not a breeding tank ... a community tank is not a breeding tank ... a community tank is not a breeding tank ...
 

CopabX

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When I get home I'll remove the tetras and other females, I'm only worried about the filter quality in the other tank since the gouramis in there are practically idiot-proof.
 

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Feed the Apistogramma only what they can eat and you will have no problem with your filter.
If you decide to try artificial hatching and rearing simply remove the eggs and whatever substrate they were laid and move them to a smaller bare bottom tank. Don't use any substrate and do use water from the breeding tank. Plan ahead and get a sponge filter broken in. I use a few drops per gallon of acriflavine to control fungus. As soon as I see the eggs are developing well i make a large water change using water from the breeding tank. Have your microworm cultures established ahead of time and newly hatched brine shrimp. I have raised thousands of Apistogramma fry in this way.
Keep the fry tank water very clean by frequent water changes using water from the breeding tank. This will also encourage further spawning of whatever Apistogramma species you are breeding. Once all the other fish have been removed you will have more success using natural breeding methods.
 

CopabX

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I have a 13 gal, I was worried that I couldn't raise them by hand without the mother since i read that without her the fry are lethargic but it is reassuring that someone has done it. I'll try again with the next female since she too is showing signs. thanks for your help
 

Mike Wise

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Not lethargic; more like frightened/stressed. Yes, the fry can be raised without their mother, but most people have better success and grow up more fry when the female is around to guard and guide the fry during the early stage of their life.
 

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