Can some one ID this Apistogramma

[Blackstar65]

Can someone ID this Apistogramma please. It was sold to me at this years ACA as a A. Cinilabrae. The seller told me they used to be classified as A. Rotkeil I had two but the smaller died. Here is the video. Thanks.

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/...t=bc784fc9.mp4


http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/...t=e98451e5.mp4

 

[rafael]

Hi Blackstar65

Photobucket "say": Page not found... Please check the links.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,
Video link works on the other "thread in the wrong place thread", it looks like a male red domestic macmasteri type, but the video is very pixelated.

cheers Darrel

 

[Mike Wise]

It doesn't look like A. cinilabra to me. A. sp. Rotkeil/Red-wedge is not the same species either. This was the name commonly used for A. uaupesi. A. cinilabra was orginally introduced to the hobby as A. sp. Schwarzbrust/Black-breast and commecially sold under the name A. sp. Roterpunkt/Redder-spot (not the same as A. sp. Rotpunkt). From what I can see in the video, the fish has a double caudal blotch. My guess is that it is a male A. sp. Roca Eterna.

 

[tompoz]

As some of you may remember, I got this female, probably A. sp. "Masken":

I started to wonder if this is not A. cinilabra? My LFS where I got this fish has just filled up the stock (from the same importer as previously) and I can see females looking exactly like mine labeled as cinilabra.

Males look like this (sorry for quality but I only had my phone with me):

What do you guys think?

 

[Mike Wise]

Your male fish looks like A. cinilabra to me. The other fish seems different: light interstitial area between caudal spot and lateral band, narrower light areas between vertical bars, and longer/narrower caudal spot. Of course I base this only on 1 photo. I could be wrong.

 

[tompoz]

Mike, here are other pictures of this female which you previously identified as probably A. sp. Masken.
Can you take another look?

 

[Mike Wise]

It looks like a regani-complex species to me. The only regani-complex species that is known to occur in Peru is A. sp. Masken. Both A. cinilabra and A. sp. Masken are found near Iquitos - but not together. It is possible that the species were mixed sometime after being collected. I could be wrong, of course, since I have only seen 2 photos of this fish.

 

[tompoz]

Thanks again, Mike. Seems that I want to get the right male a little bit too much. Need to chill. ;-)