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Are my German Blue Rams A Pair

Discussion in 'Other South American Dwarf Cichlids' started by Tanja, May 12, 2019.

  1. Tanja

    Tanja New Member

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    Hello

    I have a question, my LFS sold me these two as a Pair but to be honest I am not so sure about that, could you please tell me what you guys think.To me they both seem to be males.

    Female:
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    Male: IMG_20190512_180116.jpg
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    Please delete the other threads the window did not dissapear so I assumed my text wasn't posted I am sorry did not mean to spam
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    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    Between 1.2 and 1.5 inch

    But after I was observing them for a little bit and I took a closer look at their heads and the black spots I would say that I am pretty sure they are both females.. Whats your opinion?
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    Tanja New Member

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    Fakt is that what they told me to be the male is a female but not so sure about the other one the head looks kind of roundly shaped and the black spot shows only blue skales when I shine at him with a torch under normal light only the small one shows iridescent in the spot
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    And they seem to be fighting.. They are both sometimes chasing each other
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    Try putting a partition in the tank to keep them separate but so they can still see each other.

    To me based on the blue iridescence in only one fish's flank spots and not the other's, you should have a male and female. Better pictures to be sure would help verify as well.
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    Like I said I can only see iridescent skales on the other fish with a torch. Without one I can't cant se any iridescent. Can it be a male eaven though it shows iridescent scales when I shine light direcktly at him or her without a torch 0 with a torch a little bit of dull iridescence .
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    Mike Wise Moderator Staff Member 5 Year Member

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    They are still young and don't show many sexual features. Add to that, these are a domestic strain. Domestic strains often emphasize male color even in females. I suggest giving them a month or 2 and see how they develop. With young fish and those whose sex can't be easily determined I always buy a minimum of 4 fish - 2 large and 2 smaller, but not the smallest. You're more likely to get both sexes this way.
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    From the photograph - and as a former breeder - I would say you have two males, sorry. If one is a female it should have a pinkish blush on its belly.
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    Can you take another shot from the side of the smaller one? With jeweling in the spot, it _may_ be a female. The belly should have a pink tinge rather than the yellow (male) or purple scaling. Try feeding brine shrimp for several days first. That brings out their full colors if your water quality is good. It also encourages spawning. (Side note— it’s consumption of brine shrimp that turns flamingo feathers pink)
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    Also, per your photo labels, if you have a pair I think I’d presume the opposite of what you have labeled. The sure male GBR is the yellower one with more defined contrast. Note lack of jeweled scales in black side spot. The other one is either a juvenile male who is non dominant, or a female. Post a few side shots.
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    Ok I will take some pitcures as soon as I come home.
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    Have your GBRs survived?
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    Uncle.Ned New Member 5 Year Member

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    rams all have a black wide mark in the middle of the body ... with females there is usually shiny blue inside that middle black mark ... mature males are easy to tell because of the large fin extensions