Apistogramma pertensis

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Hi! I was wondering if you guys have any info on apistogramma pertensis? I’m looking to get a pair sometime in the near future

 

[MacZ]

Apistogramma cf. pertensis - DwarfCichlid.com

Apistogramma cf. pertensis is a small, long and slender species with very high dorsal fins on some males. Peaceful, easy in soft acid water

www.dwarfcichlid.com

English language sources are scarce.

From what I can gather from all info I can access in all languages I understand it's a pretty standard blackwater species. The overall rarity in the hobby tells me also, that you will likely not find any accustomed to tapwater.

 

[Mike Wise]

We do not know where the holotype form of A. pertensis originates. There are many different forms/species labeled A. pertensis. They vary in water values needed depending of which form you get. Those from the Rio Negro are blackwater species, those from the Rio Tapajos are clearwater species, those from the Madeira and Tefe are a mixed black/clearwater species. None of the forms are considered "commercially profitable", so rarely seen in the hobby except as contaminants/bi-catches with other fish.

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Apistogramma cf. pertensis - DwarfCichlid.com

Apistogramma cf. pertensis is a small, long and slender species with very high dorsal fins on some males. Peaceful, easy in soft acid water

www.dwarfcichlid.com

English language sources are scarce.

From what I can gather from all info I can access in all languages I understand it's a pretty standard blackwater species. The overall rarity in the hobby tells me also, that you will likely not find any accustomed to tapwater.

Gotcha, I found wetspot selling them captive bred but I’m going to keep the tank soft and acidic, would around 5-6 pH be good?

 

[MacZ]

Gotcha, I found wetspot selling them captive bred but I’m going to keep the tank soft and acidic, would around 5-6 pH be good?

Rather listen to Mike. And ask the seller how they keep them instead of assuming something.

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Rather listen to Mike. And ask the seller how they keep them instead of assuming something.

Ok, the website says 5.5 pH

 

[MacZ]

Ok, the website says 5.5 pH

Is that what they put in the description or did you ask them about the water they actually keep them in? That's an important difference.

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Is that what they put in the description or did you ask them about the water they actually keep them in? That's an important difference.

Oh, I thought they just put the water they keep them in, I’ll email them later

 

[MacZ]

Oh, I thought they just put the water they keep them in, I’ll email them later

No, usually online retailers put in a short summary of the ranges of water parameters (Temp, GH, pH), rough description of behaviour and needs and that's it. Often they blatantly copy the text from an outdated book or fish lexicon website. When you're lucky and the shop is specialized on something they add more info.
But one of the things you have to ask separately is what water they are holding them in. Some retailers keep all fish in the same tap, some have a high pH and a low(er) pH section. The few excellent ones have actual softwater and hardwater sections in their warehouses.

 

[Ben Rhau]

Wet Spot is pretty communicative, actually. You can't just order fish without an email exchange. But you can email the sales address even before placing the order. They will do their best to answer your questions. I would ask for temp, pH, TDS.

 

[Ben Rhau]

Also, they are out of stock of pertensis. I've been fooled by their bad UI before also, but the detail page always has an "Add to Cart" button even if they don't have it. The in-stock apistos will show up on the South American Cichlids page: https://www.wetspottropicalfish.com/product-category/fish/south-american-cichlids/

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Thanks guys!

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Ok so I emailed them and they haven't been in stock for quite some time, I’ll have to look for another species.

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

If you guys have any recommendations for an apisto from the caura river let me know

 

[Ben Rhau]

Can I recommend that you pick some sources and start with availability? There are around 100 species of Apistogramma alone that are described, but only about 20 or 30 that you can likely get.

 

[MacZ]

Can I recommend that you pick some sources and start with availability? There are around 100 species of Apistogramma alone that are described, but only about 20 or 30 that you can likely get.

I agree, this approach is the more promising than chasing a rare jewel for months. I mean I also did search for a certain species for over a year, but in the meantime I kept some more common fish.

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

Ok, I’ll definitely do that!

 

[Rene Winckler]

Hi! I was wondering if you guys have any info on apistogramma pertensis? I’m looking to get a pair sometime in the near future

Hi there, I kept pertensis in the mid 80s when they showed up at an importer from Brazil. I kept them in rain water with a pH of 5,5 over 5 generations or so. They are pair breeders and have a very well developed social life, with pairs defending their spots rather vigorously.
I am sure you are going to enjoy them as much as I did.

 

[PissBabyTheFourth]

They’re beautiful! I would love to get some but at the moment I can’t find any for sale