A. macmasteri Biotope Info

[luisramos126]

Hi evreyone!

I am trying to find information about Rio Guatiquia o Río Meta in Colombia to recreate the A. macmasteri biotope. Does anyone know the aquatic plant species list from those rivers? Any help will be welcome!

Thanks!

 

[MacZ]

There are not many plants. I'd look for underwater footage from the Meta on youtube, there are several videos worthwhile looking at. Can't link them, as I'm on my phone at the moment.
I'd say it's not much more than a handful of genera and mostly undescribed species. So probably you will have to work with stand-ins.

 

[Mazan]

The Rio Meta is a huge river in the Orinoco drainage, you probably want to look at some of the smaller tributaries, these articles may be of some use?

 

[Mazan]

Sorry the second link did not work properly, here is a link to the article:

https://www.lillo.org.ar/journals/index.php/acta-zoologica-lilloana/article/view/1837/1841

 

[MacZ]

Erm, Mazan, the OP was asking for plants, not fish. But I see the bibliography in the second document is going to be helpful nonetheless.

 

[Mazan]

Erm, Mazan, the OP was asking for plants, not fish. But I see the bibliography in the second document is going to be helpful nonetheless.

Sorry, I am trying to link an article about plants but keep getting an error message

 

[Mazan]

OK that worked, but there are many habitat types, the floodplain regions have aquatic plants listed in that paper, not sure if this is the habitat where Macmasteri is found? As there are also morichales and other more shaded regions that probably don't have any or many plants.

 

[MacZ]

A. macmasteri usually live in small streams and creeks flowing through savannah, so plenty of light, higher temperatures and partially overlapping habitat with M. ramirezi. The footage I've seen showed few species of plants, a lot of algae and aufwuchs cushions on the few plants there.

 

[rasmusW]

Oliver lucanus has a great video showing macmasteri in their natural habitat, though i image they can be found in habitats that look a bit different.
Not much to see in terms of plants, though.

Here is a link to his video:
Link

I suggest you also look at Ivan mikolji’s morichal largo video:
Link
It shows a. Guttata, but i imagine you could find Mac’s in similare looking places. -like the two others suggested

-r

 

[luisramos126]

Thanks everyone! I am going to take a look to all the information provided!.
Also, I found this https://firemouthaquaristic.com/en/...WWZrwANMC0qcdIvWfKZu-C_60PxhjiNm3PSQOqfC60Lr3

 

[MacZ]

Thanks everyone! I am going to take a look to all the information provided!.
Also, I found this https://firemouthaquaristic.com/en/...WWZrwANMC0qcdIvWfKZu-C_60PxhjiNm3PSQOqfC60Lr3

Little actual information, lots of product placement without explanation. Take with a grain of salt.

Also giving the size of the fish with 5.5cm for males and 4cm for females is... underestimating. I regularly see 6-8cm TL males and 6cm females. A. macmasteri are one of the bigger species.

 

[puertoayacucho1]

Hi evreyone!

I am trying to find information about Rio Guatiquia o Río Meta in Colombia to recreate the A. macmasteri biotope. Does anyone know the aquatic plant species list from those rivers? Any help will be welcome!

Thanks!

If you're ready to use your google translator, here's something I found for you.

Montamos un biotopo Rio Meta con Alan Albiach

Grabar con Alan es diversión asegurada. Alan Albiach es Youtuber, gran aficionado y promotor de la Acuariofilia nacional. Gracias a él, podemos llegar a conocer fantásticos proyectos y tiendas dedicadas al sector. El 21 de diciembre, previo a Navidad, tuvimos el placer de crear en riguroso...

firemouthaquaristic.com

I've collected there, water is amber colored, not crystal clear, not true blackwater. Your base substrate needs to be white sand, I've found Petco's Imagitarium white sand to be excellent and have it in all my tanks (I keep discus, altum, plecos and cories). Then you can throw in some leaf litter, catappa and oak will give you the right color and quality of water. Hairgrass, Carpeting swordplants, Althernathera reineckii will give you a beautiful splash of red, and some rounded stones and pieces or branches of a nice hardwood such as mahogany, i.e..
Try googling Ivan Mikolji, he should have some great images of what you are looking for.
A. Macmasteri and A. Hongsloi are close neighbors... this could help.

Green Dartfish Ammocryptocharax | Article | Mikolji | River explorer

Apistogramma hongsloi can be found in many streams of the Orinoco River basin, especially the ones between the Sipapo and Caura River.

www.mikolji.com

 

[Mazan]

Althernathera reineckii

Not found naturally in Colombia..

Something with a red colour that does occur in the region is Cabomba furcata

The article you linked is the same one posted by the OP, just in Spanish. The article I posted on aquatic vegetation is also in Spanish, it describes different communities of aquatic plants found in various habitat types. Let me know if you need help with translation, but you can find the lists of plants species quite easily.

 

[luisramos126]

Not found naturally in Colombia..

Something with a red colour that does occur in the region is Cabomba furcata

The article you linked is the same one posted by the OP, just in Spanish. The article I posted on aquatic vegetation is also in Spanish, it describes different communities of aquatic plants found in various habitat types. Let me know if you need help with translation, but you can find the lists of plants species quite easily.

Thanks, I am going to read your article in Spanish, it could help me to decide which plant I can find here in Puerto Rico and which one I need to buy it.

 

[luisramos126]

If you're ready to use your google translator, here's something I found for you.

Montamos un biotopo Rio Meta con Alan Albiach

Grabar con Alan es diversión asegurada. Alan Albiach es Youtuber, gran aficionado y promotor de la Acuariofilia nacional. Gracias a él, podemos llegar a conocer fantásticos proyectos y tiendas dedicadas al sector. El 21 de diciembre, previo a Navidad, tuvimos el placer de crear en riguroso...

firemouthaquaristic.com

I've collected there, water is amber colored, not crystal clear, not true blackwater. Your base substrate needs to be white sand, I've found Petco's Imagitarium white sand to be excellent and have it in all my tanks (I keep discus, altum, plecos and cories). Then you can throw in some leaf litter, catappa and oak will give you the right color and quality of water. Hairgrass, Carpeting swordplants, Althernathera reineckii will give you a beautiful splash of red, and some rounded stones and pieces or branches of a nice hardwood such as mahogany, i.e..
Try googling Ivan Mikolji, he should have some great images of what you are looking for.
A. Macmasteri and A. Hongsloi are close neighbors... this could help.

Green Dartfish Ammocryptocharax | Article | Mikolji | River explorer

Apistogramma hongsloi can be found in many streams of the Orinoco River basin, especially the ones between the Sipapo and Caura River.

www.mikolji.com

Thanks! I would check Ivan YouTube channel.

 

[luisramos126]

Little actual information, lots of product placement without explanation. Take with a grain of salt.

Also giving the size of the fish with 5.5cm for males and 4cm for females is... underestimating. I regularly see 6-8cm TL males and 6cm females. A. macmasteri are one of the bigger species.

Yes, I think this could be just a general overview, I am going to watch their video on Youtube to see how they build it and if they offer more information.

Also, ,I read that A. macmasteri it could be found on Río Cusiana which connect with Rio Meta.

Fishes of the Cusiana River (Meta River basin, Colombia), with an identification key to its species

The Cusiana River sub-basin has been identified as a priority conservation area in the Orinoco region in Colombia due to its high species diversity. This study presents an updated checklist and identification key for fishes of the Cusiana River sub-basin. The checklist was assembled through...

zookeys.pensoft.net

 

[Mazan]

Yes, its worth reading as much as possible as macmasteri may be found in a range of different habitat types within its range. The video by Oliver Lucanus is very nice and shows a lot of smallish rounded rocks with algae on and plenty of leaf litter, but no rooted aquatic plants, it should be quite easy to recreate. But if you want plants I am sure there are some other habitats to choose from as well.

 

[puertoayacucho1]

Not found naturally in Colombia..

Something with a red colour that does occur in the region is Cabomba furcata

The article you linked is the same one posted by the OP, just in Spanish. The article I posted on aquatic vegetation is also in Spanish, it describes different communities of aquatic plants found in various habitat types. Let me know if you need help with translation, but you can find the lists of plants species quite easily.

Good morning Mazan, Luis, and everybody.
Althernanthera reineckii... is definitely and abundantly found in Colombia... believe me!
I'm not sure if you can find it on some internet distribution map.. no big deal.. but it's there, trust my old eyes.
I've lived in SLC, Utah, the last 20 years, but I spent over 35 years of my life in puddles in Venezuela and Colombia looking for colorful little fish. I had a ball, and there was no internet back then!
I did bring back some "souvenirs", like my wife and son, he was born 28 years ago right on the bank of the grand Orinoco, in Puerto Ayacucho, hence my user name.
I'm a new member here, sorry, but nature, true nature, that's my game.

 

[Mazan]

OK, I looked up Althernanthera reineckii and found the native range to be Bolivia, Brazil and Northern Argentina. Perhaps this is wrong or it has been introduced in Colombia? It is not mentioned in the paper I posted earlier.

 

[puertoayacucho1]

OK, I looked up Althernanthera reineckii and found the native range to be Bolivia, Brazil and Northern Argentina. Perhaps this is wrong or it has been introduced in Colombia? It is not mentioned in the paper I posted.